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Predatory Photographers & How To Handle Them

 

I've been working on a new video for my YouTube channel, & have been joined by a fabulous collection of other freelance models - between us we have over 130 years of experience, and we want to use it to light the way for new models.

Content warning; sexual assault

Back in 2004 when I was still a new model, I met a more experienced model for the first time. And she warned me about 3 photographers. "He's perfectly fine, but he'll say your skin looks dry, and he'll try to rub baby oil onto your body. Tell him you'll do it yourself". "He steals models' knickers; I won't work for him any more".  "He's set up a hidden camera in the bathroom where models get changed". As I met more models, I started collecting warnings, and I very much appreciated them. As I gained more experience, I started handing my knowledge on to my sister models in return.  And the network of models, communicating with each other, is one of the most powerful tools we have for keeping each other safe.


But it'll never be possible to warn every new model about every predatory photographer, and by the time newcomers make contact with experienced models, they might already have had some bad experiences.  So the best thing I could think of doing, was to make a collaborative video with my fellow models in which we share our experiences, and what we've learned as a result. Because a lot of bad behaviour on shoots falls into fairly predictable patterns, and when you can anticipate, you can often do a better job of protecting yourself.


Thank you so much to the brilliant models who shared their stories. Some of them are hard to listen to (editing it made me cry), but I really hope that they might help equip other models to challenge predatory behaviour, and stay safer.



JLavertyPhotography said, 1604220414

Well done on producing this Joceline Brooke-Hamilton and to all who were involved.

I am a admin on a facebook group for local photographers/MUA and models in my area of Brighton and often post about safety to inform all new members to the group. I do get very concerned when I see new model members on the FB group post and then see Instagram links from photographers pop up. 

But again, thank you for producing this.

Jamie

B17fan said, 1604221485

Not watched the video yet, but I will.

Well done to anyone who furthers the cause of model safety.

Edited by B17fan

Gothic Image said, 1604222924

It's appalling that such a video even needs to be produced, but thank you for doing so, Joceline Brooke-Hamilton .

happysnaps said, 1604225880

Excellent video which models should watch.  A lot of questions come out of it and the one which would worry me is how you prevent things happening.  Models need to talk and not bottle things up.

RachelGWPhotography said, 1604226836

This is excellent! It's fantastic that you've done this and got so many models to contribute too!

JLavertyPhotography said, 1604226994

Gothic Image said

It's appalling that such a video even needs to be produced, but thank you for doing so, Joceline Brooke-Hamilton .



happysnaps said

Excellent video which models should watch.  A lot of questions come out of it and the one which would worry me is how you prevent things happening.  Models need to talk and not bottle things up.


The main point should be dirty photographers stop being dirty photographers - that would prevent a lot.

Joceline Brooke-Hamilton said, 1604229118

JLavertyPhotography said

Well done on producing this Joceline Brooke-Hamilton and to all who were involved.

I am a admin on a facebook group for local photographers/MUA and models in my area of Brighton and often post about safety to inform all new members to the group. I do get very concerned when I see new model members on the FB group post and then see Instagram links from photographers pop up. 

But again, thank you for producing this.

Jamie



B17fan said

Not watched the video yet, but I will.

Well done to anyone who furthers the cause of model safety.

Edited by B17fan



Gothic Image said

It's appalling that such a video even needs to be produced, but thank you for doing so, Joceline Brooke-Hamilton .



happysnaps said

Excellent video which models should watch.  A lot of questions come out of it and the one which would worry me is how you prevent things happening.  Models need to talk and not bottle things up.



RachelGWPhotography said

This is excellent! It's fantastic that you've done this and got so many models to contribute too!


Thank you everyone, that's much appreciated. I know that some of us were quite nervous about being in it, so the kind words mean a lot.

Joceline Brooke-Hamilton said, 1604229452

JLavertyPhotography said

Gothic Image said

It's appalling that such a video even needs to be produced, but thank you for doing so, Joceline Brooke-Hamilton .



happysnaps said

Excellent video which models should watch.  A lot of questions come out of it and the one which would worry me is how you prevent things happening.  Models need to talk and not bottle things up.


The main point should be dirty photographers stop being dirty photographers - that would prevent a lot.


Yeah, the thing that perhaps makes me the most angry about all of it, is that some of the things the various photographers were trying to get from us by dishonest means, are perfectly possible if you book the right model and are honest about it. There are models who, unlike Scarlett Fox, are totally happy to shoot upskirt shots. There are plenty of excellent models who're happy to shoot open leg, but Artemis isn't one of them.  Lauren Jade doesn't do girl/girl, but loads of great models do. And even in poor Lucy Lauren's (hideous, extreme) case, if the photographer had just hired an appropriate escort, he could have masturbated in front of her on his boat to his heart's content.  The utter creepiness and predatory nature of deliberately hiring a model who *doesn't* want to do those things and then trying to do them anyway makes me absolutely *flaming*, as Scarlett would say.

JLavertyPhotography said, 1604231112

Joceline Brooke-Hamilton said

JLavertyPhotography said

Gothic Image said

It's appalling that such a video even needs to be produced, but thank you for doing so, Joceline Brooke-Hamilton .



happysnaps said

Excellent video which models should watch.  A lot of questions come out of it and the one which would worry me is how you prevent things happening.  Models need to talk and not bottle things up.


The main point should be dirty photographers stop being dirty photographers - that would prevent a lot.


Yeah, the thing that perhaps makes me the most angry about all of it, is that some of the things the various photographers were trying to get from us by dishonest means, are perfectly possible if you book the right model and are honest about it. There are models who, unlike Scarlett Fox, are totally happy to shoot upskirt shots. There are plenty of excellent models who're happy to shoot open leg, but Artemis isn't one of them.  Lauren Jade doesn't do girl/girl, but loads of great models do. And even in poor Lucy Lauren's (hideous, extreme) case, if the photographer had just hired an appropriate escort, he could have masturbated in front of her on his boat to his heart's content.  The utter creepiness and predatory nature of deliberately hiring a model who *doesn't* want to do those things and then trying to do them anyway makes me absolutely *flaming*, as Scarlett would say.

My heart really did go out to Lucy Lauren. It was interesting how many of these stories related to either being early on in their modelling or their first shoot. Showing that these individuals knew that they could play on their inexperience. It's what I fear when I see the posts on the Facebook group I admin for. 

Communicating, reporting and banning - I hope these areas ALL improve 

Njay1 said, 1604233285

What can I say that hasn't already been said. A lovely video, giving great advice to new and established models. It is so sad that any model has to suffer such experiences and I thank each and everyone for their openness and honesty, despite that fact that it is difficult and hurtful having to express the pain they had to go through ...

I would love to be able to have a link to this video in order to pass it on to new models I work with.

Thanks to all who contributed to this video and to you Joceline for producing it ....

FarmerSteve said, 1604233371

Joceline Brooke-Hamilton unfortunately it's often not about "hiring the right model/escort" for the creeps needs - it's usually about power, or getting that something extra/special that isn't on offer.

If a model is willing or offering the desired services then there's no challenge & the "gratification" isn't so great.

mike rowley said, 1604234210

Thanks for producing this, and to the models who were brave enough to share their experiences

Joceline Brooke-Hamilton said, 1604234867

FarmerSteve said

Joceline Brooke-Hamilton unfortunately it's often not about "hiring the right model/escort" for the creeps needs - it's usually about power, or getting that something extra/special that isn't on offer.

If a model is willing or offering the desired services then there's no challenge & the "gratification" isn't so great.


No, exactly. The last thing they want, I guess, is someone who's totally happy and comfortable and working within their levels. Which is the worst thing of all.

Joceline Brooke-Hamilton said, 1604235075

My heart really did go out to Lucy Lauren. It was interesting how many of these stories related to either being early on in their modelling or their first shoot. Showing that these individuals knew that they could play on their inexperience. It's what I fear when I see the posts on the Facebook group I admin for. 

Communicating, reporting and banning - I hope these areas ALL improve 


Yeah, her story just broke my heart really, maybe most of all because she felt like she'd handled it wrong.  When honestly, for her own safety, he left her with very little choice. I've tried to rehearse, in my mind, what I'd do in a similar situation now I've heard her story, and given that they were alone on a boat, I think it's very likely I'd have just done the same. Shame on that 'photographer'.

Malbon said, 1604235758

Excellent liberation work as always.

I often think this is a manifestation of a wider problem which appears in other domains, which might be described as non-consensual objectification.

The predator has objectified the subject in advance to such an extent that they are not able to establish a "normal", healthy human rapport with them. They are not able to see them as a real person, and thus do not feel the compassion, empathy, or respect for preferences that is required in any real-world interaction. I have characterised this elsewhere as the "Simulacra" problem, which describes a phenomenon most associated with the crossover between online interactions and real-world experiences. Put very simply it means that once someone has registered you as an object, rather than as a real person, it can be very difficult to shift or amend that perception. They don't actually think you are real, and as a result their behaviour towards you can range from unreasonable to appallingly abusive.

Sadly my own experience in trying to provide guidance/education for other people is that you often find you cannot succeed in even leading them to the bloody water, never mind get them to drink.

But it's still important that people try, and perhaps the most important thing is to articulate the true nature of the problem, to get it on the table, to expose what abusive behaviour actually looks and feels like to the people who have had to suffer it.

In which you succeed admirably :)