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Impact of the recently identified 'false negative' PCR Tests from the Wolverhampton laboratory

 

Wavepower

By Wavepower, 1634901336

A very interesting article from BBC Inside Science about the possible impact of false-negative PCR Tests from the Wolverhampton laboratory

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0010q9x

A few extracts:

  • "Exceptional policies lead to exception outcomes"
    (a comment on the fact that Uk are exception in Europe having shed most of the social control measures it had and now is also has an exception level of infections in Europe).
  • About "14,000 deaths" since 'Freedom Day' in July, 'many' of which could have been prevented had we retained just 'basic' social measures.
  • The laboratory produced an estimated 43,000 incorrect negative test results over the 35 days the issues were believed to have occured undetected.
  • Clues should have been seen in the data available from the start of September that 'strange things were going on', particularly in the South West - this should have raised alarm bells on several levels.
  • There was a clear failure in the Quality Controls that should have in place in that Lab.
  • The consequences of the 43,00 false negatives were estimated to have resulted in 'upwards of' 200,000 addditional infections over what would have been expected to have happened had these lab errors not taken place (and this number continues to grow). It goes on to suggest some 500 to 1,000 deaths could have resulted from the errors made in the Laboratory.

Certainly cases in my area of Somerset through the roof in from about the third week of September and continue to remain really high. We are still more than double the infection rate of the highest peak in January, and the current peak is looking like it will be more sustained.





Richard Winn said, 1634902228

One little bit of caution over attribution if deaths due to relaxing of restrictions. It is very difficult to assess overall mortality during a pandemic and it could just be deaths that may have occurred over a longer period if restrictions remained it can only be assessed properly retrospectively ?when it is also too late).

In terms of the laboratory failures, I find it very hard to understand how it could have gone undetected for so long if proper QC procedures were in place and followed. It simply shouldn't have been possible to remain undetected, even if it took a while to isolate a cause. Some of this could be the National shortage of registered Biomedical Scientists and the huge recruitment issues that have gradually worsened over the past 10-15 years. There must also be a significant management and governance failure.

Richard Winn said, 1634902311

BTW, I would estimate 200,000 additional infections as a result to be the low end of any estimates.

Rich Davis said, 1634902609

I used a firm called RT Diagnostics following some foreign travel and they were a total shambles (I should've read the Google reviews first, but my wallet made the choice for me). The company were even filmed secretly just dumping tests in huge boxes and throwing them in the corner, then sending out negatives to everyone. Luckily got my money back and the NHS did the test correctly.

All these firms are on the "approved list" too and seem to be set up by former government ministers within a few months of all that testing going live. I guess there's always money to be made from peoples suffering and fear.

Wavepower said, 1634906354

Richard Winn

Many thanks for your insight Richard, I was hoping you would reply.

Interesting that you feel the 200,000 estimate of additional infections is probably low rather than high.

Totally understand your comment on deaths, the article makes it clear that it was a back of an envelope estimate.

-sp●●n- said, 1634908040

I saw a report on LFT tests, the false positive rate on that is 0.5%!! seems strange they have to PCR after a LFT positive result.

YorVikIng said, 1634908333

-sp●●n- said

I saw a report on LFT tests, the false positive rate on that is 0.5%!! seems strange they have to PCR after a LFT positive result.


It might be because LFTs are typically done by untrained people left to their own devices, whereas PCRs are done by trained professionals, or at least with a trained professional shouting through a closed car-window.  That said, I fundamentally agree with you.

GhostOfArielAdam said, 1634910573

Richard Winn said

One little bit of caution over attribution if deaths due to relaxing of restrictions. It is very difficult to assess overall mortality during a pandemic and it could just be deaths that may have occurred over a longer period if restrictions remained it can only be assessed properly retrospectively ?when it is also too late).


This will have brought these infections forwards to a time when people hadn't had their boosters, so it's fair to say that more people will die than if this failure hadn't occurred.




Hopefully these images will link... these are for where I live.

Unexplained drop-off in cases just after schools go back where you would expect rises  (first day September 7th specimen dates matches with 8th Sept being start of issues as UKHSA said)

Huge jump starts samples dated Oct 11, lab issues spotted October 12th


It stands out a bloody mile, and that's without all the anecdotal evidence.

I personally had a test which was later invalid (99% sure I didn't have Covid tho as I did loads of LFTs as well).

From 15 cases on Oct 10th to 218 5 days later....

I should add, we've only had 3 deaths in the delta wave in our area. The vaccinations really work (unless that data is crap as well).

 

Edited by GhostOfArielAdam

Wavepower said, 1634917668

GhostOfArielAdam said


It stands out a bloody mile, and that's without all the anecdotal evidence.

I personally had a test which was later invalid (99% sure I didn't have Covid tho as I did loads of LFTs as well).

From 15 cases on Oct 10th to 218 5 days later....

 

Edited by GhostOfArielAdam


Interesting data, thank you

3RDi said, 1634918623

But hey, let's keep the fear porn alive and not mention all the millions of false positives that have enabled this entire charade?

And keep doing so.

Yeah and make sure, you guys keep on peddling the lies on these forums.

Pfff...

BC2024 said, 1634920220

3RDi said

But hey, let's keep the fear porn alive and not mention all the millions of false positives that have enabled this entire charade?

And keep doing so.

Yeah and make sure, you guys keep on peddling the lies on these forums.

Pfff...

+1

mph said, 1634920262

Σ OI Σ said

3RDi said

But hey, let's keep the fear porn alive and not mention all the millions of false positives that have enabled this entire charade?

And keep doing so.

Yeah and make sure, you guys keep on peddling the lies on these forums.

Pfff...

+1

-20

DrewJ said, 1634921152

Richard Winn said

In terms of the laboratory failures, I find it very hard to understand how it could have gone undetected for so long if proper QC procedures were in place and followed. It simply shouldn't have been possible to remain undetected, even if it took a while to isolate a cause. Some of this could be the National shortage of registered Biomedical Scientists and the huge recruitment issues that have gradually worsened over the past 10-15 years. There must also be a significant management and governance failure.


Quite amazing that any lab carrying out such critical work can be doing so with no accreditation in place. The level of record keeping for UKAS is quite significant so if the lab have no accreditation in place it would suggest that their process and procedures were not up to those standards which are the expected level for a testing laboratory. It sounds from the reports that the lab were only operating from the start of September but I'm not sure if that is correct.

DrewJ said, 1634921308

3RDi said


Yeah and make sure, you guys keep on peddling the lies on these forums.

Pfff...


Which lies are those then?

mph said, 1634922364

DrewJ said

3RDi said


Yeah and make sure, you guys keep on peddling the lies on these forums.

Pfff...


Which lies are those then?


Oh Christ! Don’t! 8D

3RDi said, 1634922423

You are not worth it.