Poll for a SFW version of Purpleport

tandi said

why is the NSFW filter a cookie and not a user setting :-)

I normally have my desktop at home set to show Adult images, but my phone set to show only SFW to make my experience when on public transport or in a coffee shop more relaxed.  I believe that permitting exactly that kind of set-up is the intention.

Malbon said

Maybe you could just create a 100% SFW portfolio on a different site and ensure that viewers who might be offended by nudity etc are only directed to that one?

It is and always has been part of PP's DNA to permit and display NSFW images, I would be surprised if they wanted to change that now.

Thanks Malbon I have considered a personal website but Purpleport is a community, it has like minded people who all love creating photographic content, so a personal website is a lonely place if you are a creator and purely dedicated to customers, friends and family to view safe content.

I am also thinking about the Online Safety Act and Purpleport, obviously content on this site must not come under the act at present because if it did it would give members the tools to filter out unverified users, which isn't a bad thing considering I joined in a Fake Account post previously was a little worrying. It would also safeguard children by ensuring that members proved they were an adult. Obviously things will change in the future, splitting SFW and NFSW simplifies things and creates potentially a dual income for the owners if creators want to be on both SFW and NSFW sites ;-)

I'm not sure, so many people are passionate about things the way they are, probably a laissez faire attitude is the best to take

Sensual Art said

tandi said

why is the NSFW filter a cookie and not a user setting :-)

I normally have my desktop at home set to show Adult images, but my phone set to show only SFW to make my experience when on public transport or in a coffee shop more relaxed.  I believe that permitting exactly that kind of set-up is the intention.

yes it makes sense, defaulting to SFW but allowing NSFW as an option I did not realise into well into the debate. Only debating did I check and realise that the default is SFW, you have to physically change a SHOW setting to display NSFW. The question is now what is ADULT, but as I never turned that on we'll forget I asked :-)

Thanks for your input, valuable.

tandi said

Malbon said

Maybe you could just create a 100% SFW portfolio on a different site and ensure that viewers who might be offended by nudity etc are only directed to that one?

It is and always has been part of PP's DNA to permit and display NSFW images, I would be surprised if they wanted to change that now.

Thanks Malbon I have considered a personal website but Purpleport is a community, it has like minded people who all love creating photographic content, so a personal website is a lonely place if you are a creator and purely dedicated to customers, friends and family to view safe content.

I am also thinking about the Online Safety Act and Purpleport, obviously content on this site must not come under the act at present because if it did it would give members the tools to filter out unverified users, which isn't a bad thing considering I joined in a Fake Account post previously was a little worrying. It would also safeguard children by ensuring that members proved they were an adult. Obviously things will change in the future, splitting SFW and NFSW simplifies things and creates potentially a dual income for the owners if creators want to be on both SFW and NSFW sites ;-)

I'm not sure, so many people are passionate about things the way they are, probably a laissez faire attitude is the best to take

Hope I'm not being alarmist, but to the best of my knowledge PP doesn't do any verifying of its members. 

[I stand to be corrected.]

tandi said
Yes Sensual Art is quite right. I told a friend I was on Purpleport and she checked out the website. Her initial impressions weren't favourable and she told me so. To the purpleport community it may be another day at the office, but to visitors who are not used to artistic nudes and nudes not so artistic, it can be quiet a shock.

T

I believe the default when you go on the site for the first time or are not logged in is SFW so your friend must have opted to switch on NSFW and adult images.  If they are that much of a prude then why turn the settings on?

MarkGerrardPhotography said

tandi said

Yes Sensual Art is quite right. I told a friend I was on Purpleport and she checked out the website. Her initial impressions weren't favourable and she told me so. To the purpleport community it may be another day at the office, but to visitors who are not used to artistic nudes and nudes not so artistic, it can be quiet a shock.

I believe the default when you go on the site for the first time or are not logged in is SFW so your friend must have opted to switch on NSFW and adult images.  If they are that much of a prude then why turn the settings on?

Two factors come into play:

1. If you click on something and it says "this image is filtered, but click here and you can see it" then natural curiosity is extremely likely to kick in.
2. Some people set out to be shocked and horrified.  Certain daily publications exist solely to pander to their desires.

tandi said

Could I politely ask how many people would prefer a SFW version of Purpleport where only SFW content is uploaded and promoted?

I would say very little.  In the years PP has been here (at least 14 not sure) no one has said "Hey, I've got a brilliant idea which would attract lots of paying creatives. I'll clone PP but make it SFW". No NSFW content at all, or at least no prizes, awards, popular / new content promos for NSFW. 

Models get paid more for NSFW content, and most models shoot at least clothed which falls under the "just a bit too sexy" rule, never mind lingerie, sheer, topless and beyond. It's very hard to find anyone who doesn't have something NSFW, so if you had to be on PP why join a site that has subset? If you want arbitrary bans on body parts to please religious fundamentalists in Gilliad (cough, sorry America) meta can offer you multiple platforms. If the NSFW flag isn't sufficient then you might need to browse modelling sites when not at work . 

tandi said

Barney57 said

In response to your original post, I would not prefer a NSFW version of PP. After reading through the comments I appear not to be the only one, indeed the overwhelming majority of comments suggest others would not prefer a NSFW version of PP. 

Moving on ….

Eloquently put, thousands of members and 30 people voice an opinion, I love a democracy :-)

Not sure who originated the quote, but in a democracy decisions are made by those who turn up.  

I'm guessing most members of Purpleport are as happy as they're likely to be with the image styles on the site as it is.  When I could be bothered, I used to post on Facebook, only SFW images (I think) but it rapidly became evident it was a waste of time.  Probably the way I was doing it.

But looking at it from a slightly different perspective, Purpleport is a commercial site.  I have no real knowledge of the finances involved, but if there was a business opportunity in creating a 'NSFW only' version of Purpleport, I suspect the owners would have already spotted it.  Honestly I'd be very surprised if anyone would pay to subscribe to a NSFW version, especially given there are many other social media options.  

I think Russ is canny enough that if he saw there was mileage in a NSFW site you would now be logged into PurplePort Lite.

You're not.

There isn't.

B.

I think its a great idea, but it probably wont work nether the less.

Firstly it could get rid of most of the membership here, which stay with me, which could be a good thing for a website. How many new models and photographers is this site gaining? Im not sure the younger generation are at all, and whilst it's full of set in their ways, middle-aged to retired photographers it will probably remain uncool.

Then SFW images open up more avenues, such as an Apple App. This is a major boon.
Reputable advertisers wouldn't run a mile if they wanted adverts
Phototgraphy publications could also recommend the site as I imagine many wont touch the place at the moment due to adult content. 
Many people dont like PP due to the adult content, new models might feel more comfortable joining a strictly SFW website esp those with no experience.

Big killer though is that the membership here is the known market. The app would be appealing to people outside of it and I personally dont believe a SFW super cool App will suddently draw in a massive market from people put off by PP as it stands and fresh new creatives. 

Insta and other social media sites provide me with a SFW option.

PP is where I post anything without censoring my portfolio.  I don't need another SFW option.

No.

I shoot to art nude, and whilst I don't shoot adult, a fair few of my images are NSFW. Instagram I censor and fb I dont post NSFW at all, even if censored. I don't have OF/Patreon. I have to be careful as my full time job is in the NHS. Therefore PP is the only place people can see the art I create with photographers, as intended. I direct people to view my portfolio here due to this. A fair few of the alopecia community who are my fan club (😅) regularly snoop at my port on here.

Like others have said, if Russ thought it worthwhile he'd have done it by now.

I dont particularly like adult imagery when I see it on here so I just scroll by or filter it. It never put me off even when I first joined, but I had been 'briefed' by other photographers I already knew on here.

Edited by Baldbraveandbeautiful

YorVikIng said

Yes!  When browsing NSFW there should be no visual clues (other than the relevant setting) to the existence of stuff that has been filtered out. 

This ^.  Flickr used to do that exact thing... when browsing in safe mode you wouldn't know that NSFW images (or entirely NSFW albums) even existed.

YorVikIng said

tandi said

Though why show the NSFW icon, it shouldn't do that, it highlights that there is naughty content, that you can view if you turn off the NSFW filter :-)

Also why is the NSFW filter a cookie and not a user setting :-)

Edited by tandi

Yes!  When browsing NSFW there should be no visual clues (other than the relevant setting) to the existence of stuff that has been filtered out. 

In a perfect world yes, it's a bit like a block being a total block (but it's not). However PP is far from being Facebook/Instagram, it's a development/resource/framework constraint basically.