Just gonna drop this here :-)

Sensual Art said

ANDY00 said

Terry V while I agree the planet is overcrowded if you look into the figures birthrates have been in serious decline for a decade 🙂 fact is we’re not breeding enough to sustain our way of life

Birth rates might be declining, but that just means the population is growing less quickly.

It's like inflation: low inflation doesn't mean prices are dropping, just that they're rising more slowly.

The UN has some "best guess" predictions for how the world's population will continue to grow for many years yet. https://www.un.org/en/global-issues/population

The overall picture is far more complex. Several factors contribute to the global situation:

1. Wars and Disease Outbreaks:

   • Destructive wars persist in various regions, causing loss of life and displacement of populations.
   • Disease outbreaks, including the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic, continue to impact mortality rates.

2. Migration and Starvation:

   • Mass migrations occur due to a combination of conflict, environmental stressors, and economic instability.
   • Starvation remains a critical concern, especially in regions with food insecurity.

3. Environmental Challenges:

   • Rising temperatures and water scarcity pose significant threats.
   • Soil degradation affects crop sustainability and wild ecosystems.
   • Wildlife suffers due to habitat loss and disrupted ecosystems.

4. Pressure on Agricultural Regions:

   • Some areas are forced to overproduce crops to meet demand, leading to further soil depletion.

All of that and rising sea water levels, Wild fires in summer seasons and severe floods in winters mean migration is a driving force to decline populations, Technically, our current civilization has endured longer than any civilization we know of in Earth’s history. However, historical records show that all civilizations eventually decline or collapse, without exception. or maybe we will just move to another planet who knows, We will probably break that too though :-)  

Not sure what the equivalent is for a mic drop on a forum but just imagine im doing it lol

ANDY00 said

In response to hiding reports, we have literally just come through a time in history when the entire planet was not only lied to about a vaccine; many were forced to take it. So yes, it happens. These things occur when money or politics are involved—absolutely no tin foil hat required.

Christ - you really believe that?  

I guess you believe the Moon Landings were faked and her father in law murdered Diana too?

AndyWilson said

ANDY00 said

In response to hiding reports, we have literally just come through a time in history when the entire planet was not only lied to about a vaccine; many were forced to take it. So yes, it happens. These things occur when money or politics are involved—absolutely no tin foil hat required.

Christ - you really believe that?  

I guess you believe the Moon Landings were faked and her father in law murdered Diana too?

Do I believe that the COVID inoculations were all lies and caused serious risks to health, as well as hurt people? Let me see. Firstly, it's not only been proven so, but AstraZeneca is already paying compensation for it. Pfizer is about to start as well, with numerous law cases ongoing and about a hundred studies proving it already. And of course, I myself have been put in a wheelchair because of it. So, do I believe it? Hmmm... I'm going to say yes. if that means i have to believe in things i dont know about then ok

If you mean i believe that gov and big industry hides the health risks of high profit products to keep them on sale then i think it may be you that believes in moon landings, its been happening since the dawn of time, thats also a fact

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ANDY00 said

AndyWilson said

ANDY00 said

In response to hiding reports, we have literally just come through a time in history when the entire planet was not only lied to about a vaccine; many were forced to take it. So yes, it happens. These things occur when money or politics are involved—absolutely no tin foil hat required.

Christ - you really believe that?  

I guess you believe the Moon Landings were faked and her father in law murdered Diana too?

Do I believe that the COVID inoculations were all lies and caused serious risks to health, as well as hurt people? Let me see. Firstly, it's not only been proven so, but AstraZeneca is already paying compensation for it. Pfizer is about to start as well, with numerous law cases ongoing and about a hundred studies proving it already. And of course, I myself have been put in a wheelchair because of it. So, do I believe it? Hmmm... I'm going to say yes. if that means i have to believe in things i dont know about then ok

If you mean i believe that gov and big industry hides the health risks of high profit products to keep them on sale then i think it may be you that believes in moon landings, its been happening since the dawn of time, thats also a fact

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There are a great number of medicines in regular use which while broadly beneficial (greatly so in many cases), also have a range of side effects - mostly minor, but in a small percentage of individuals more serious.

My daughter, for example, suffers from quite serious migraines at times, and has medication to reduce the frequency and severity of them - which, from her experience does appear to work - she has had far fewer, and less sever, migraines since she started to take this. However, one of the warnings is that she must NOT take a number of other medicines if she has taken any of the migraine medicine within a few days, as the resulting side effects could be extremely severe, and could possible result in death. She continues to take the medication for migraines (and avoids the others), as that is better (in her opinion) than avoiding the risk and suffering the debilitating effects of the migraines.

The Covid medicines were no different - other than the scale with which they were rolled out.
The vast majority of those that were vaccinated had either no side effect, or very minor side effects, and gained a significant increase in their resistance to Covid.
However, with the huge numbers receiving the vaccination there were some, like yourself, who suffered a more serious side effect.

That's not the vaccine being 'all lies' - that's a small risk over millions of people leading to some who were very unlucky.

Jonathan C said

ANDY00 said

AndyWilson said

ANDY00 said

In response to hiding reports, we have literally just come through a time in history when the entire planet was not only lied to about a vaccine; many were forced to take it. So yes, it happens. These things occur when money or politics are involved—absolutely no tin foil hat required.

Christ - you really believe that?  

I guess you believe the Moon Landings were faked and her father in law murdered Diana too?

Do I believe that the COVID inoculations were all lies and caused serious risks to health, as well as hurt people? Let me see. Firstly, it's not only been proven so, but AstraZeneca is already paying compensation for it. Pfizer is about to start as well, with numerous law cases ongoing and about a hundred studies proving it already. And of course, I myself have been put in a wheelchair because of it. So, do I believe it? Hmmm... I'm going to say yes. if that means i have to believe in things i dont know about then ok

If you mean i believe that gov and big industry hides the health risks of high profit products to keep them on sale then i think it may be you that believes in moon landings, its been happening since the dawn of time, thats also a fact

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There are a great number of medicines in regular use which while broadly beneficial (greatly so in many cases), also have a range of side effects - mostly minor, but in a small percentage of individuals more serious.

My daughter, for example, suffers from quite serious migraines at times, and has medication to reduce the frequency and severity of them - which, from her experience does appear to work - she has had far fewer, and less sever, migraines since she started to take this. However, one of the warnings is that she must NOT take a number of other medicines if she has taken any of the migraine medicine within a few days, as the resulting side effects could be extremely severe, and could possible result in death. She continues to take the medication for migraines (and avoids the others), as that is better (in her opinion) than avoiding the risk and suffering the debilitating effects of the migraines.

The Covid medicines were no different - other than the scale with which they were rolled out.
The vast majority of those that were vaccinated had either no side effect, or very minor side effects, and gained a significant increase in their resistance to Covid.
However, with the huge numbers receiving the vaccination there were some, like yourself, who suffered a more serious side effect.

That's not the vaccine being 'all lies' - that's a small risk over millions of people leading to some who were very unlucky.

My information comes from my neurologist and hospital professional and specialists and many studies done, where does yours come from? they rushed it out without proper testing - fact, it caused thousands or deaths by Myocarditis alone, gave countless young people heart problems and put them at risk, I'm in a smaller minority group it attacked my brain which was not fun, and the problem's are still coming to light. If you don't have problems that doesn't make me a minority. phizer and astro zenica have admitted fault, why do some who have not been effected feel the need to prove there a doctor ? maybe you can tell the neurologist i don't need the wheelchair after all.

Not only that but it was proven that immunity did not stop you contracting or passing covid so even vaccinated you could still transmit. and there are multiple immunologist specialist high up the chain in UK and America all fighting to have them banned right now, why would they do that if it's Fine

You are right that some do not get effected but that doesn't make them ok, I know people who smoked there whole life without getting cancer does that mean cigarettes are ok ? I believe a pretty famous model on here died from the vax god rest her. I survived many did not,

And they are very different from all medicines because they use mRNA Technology Which is vastly untested until now, apart from a small test on Ebola subjects. the last time a forced rollout of immunisation was rushed out all be it a smaller scale was for polio and many died that time too, sadly we don't learn from history - We argue about it!

Clearly i have a lot of emotion on the covid subject so im not going to continue this line, the thread is about mobile phones data, Not moon landings, not covid and not princess Di - mobile phone health risks 

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ANDY00 said

AndyWilson said

ANDY00 said

In response to hiding reports, we have literally just come through a time in history when the entire planet was not only lied to about a vaccine; many were forced to take it. So yes, it happens. These things occur when money or politics are involved—absolutely no tin foil hat required.

Christ - you really believe that?  

I guess you believe the Moon Landings were faked and her father in law murdered Diana too?

Do I believe that the COVID inoculations were all lies and caused serious risks to health, as well as hurt people? Let me see. Firstly, it's not only been proven so, but AstraZeneca is already paying compensation for it. Pfizer is about to start as well, with numerous law cases ongoing and about a hundred studies proving it already. And of course, I myself have been put in a wheelchair because of it. So, do I believe it? Hmmm... I'm going to say yes. if that means i have to believe in things i dont know about then ok

If you mean i believe that gov and big industry hides the health risks of high profit products to keep them on sale then i think it may be you that believes in moon landings, its been happening since the dawn of time, thats also a fact

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COVID vaccines saved about 1.4 million lives in Europe

https://www.who.int/europe/news/item/16-01-2024-covid-19-vaccinations-have-saved-more-than-1.4-million-lives-in-the-who-european-region--a-new-study-finds

"Vaccination against covid-19 has reduced deaths in Europe by at least 57% and saved at least 1.4 million lives, the World Health Organization has estimated."

https://www.bmj.com/content/384/bmj.q125

https://www.who.int/europe/news/item/16-01-2024-statement---covid-19-vaccines-saved-at-least-1.4-million-lives-in-the-european-region

and about 20 million lives worldwide.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(22)00320-6/fulltext

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/237591/vaccinations-have-prevented-almost-20-million/

But you ae passing off as evidence sites similar to those that claim Covid Vaccinations modify human RNA or even DNA - so they deserve to be lumped in with all the other conspiracy theories. 

The BioNTech mRNA platform was developed as a targeted cancer treatment and was very, very thoroughly tested - and the Astra Zenica vaccine is NOT mRNA based!

And as for the orginal video you posted - google for "environmental health trust credibility" - they also argue against 5G (and $4 and 3G) masts, wifi in schools, cellphones cause breast cancer etc - and that''s all from their own website. Their name is a misnomer - they're a single issue lobby group with an obsession about electromagnetic radiation. 

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Terry V Absolutely spot on

♥ Chiara Elisabetta said

Terry V Absolutely spot on

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some years ago i doubled and trebled the distance i keep a mobile phone from my body, i think it was when i read/watched a female doctor
show the connection of breast cancer in women that stuffed mobile phones down their bra.   i also saw how mobile phone radiation was tested on american
"standard soldier head size",  so in children the radiation penetrates deeper and is more dangerous.

  the tests were considered passed i.e. mobile phones are safe
but no one seems to remember they were only used for a very small period of time as compared to mobile phones these days.   

i for one send texts not make phone calls,  keep the phone well away from my body most of the time,  use a tin foil hat when amonst
many people using mobile phones and no, i rarely believe a word of the lies governments and corporations tell.

but that's just me. . .