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Black table top for macro work

Sensual Art

By Sensual Art, 1731534838

I want to do some macro work in the studio through the winter.  This (stacked focus) shot of a chess set was my proof of concept, except that I know that I can do it better.  Not least by getting a better board to show off the pieces - hush! :P

The one thing I know I need is a decent black surface.  I have enough black background for behind it and to the sides to control the lighting, and more than enough lighting, but the table here had a decidedly shoddy cloth on it, which needed more than a little editing to clean it up.

So...

What kind of table top should I go and get, bearing in mind that I want it small enough to tuck away at the side of the studio when I'm shooting a human subject, nice and black, not easily scratched, and cheapish?  Would more black fabric be best, or are there better alternatives for that job?

And what if I then also wanted a shiny black surface to get the reflection off it?

otteypm said, 1731537797

Black velvet, and a sheet of glass to put on top when you want it shiny.

indemnity said, 1731538579

Musou black paint is the blackest black.

MidgePhoto said, 1731539234

Raising the board on suitable small pillars (egg cups) makes the table surface less hard to lose.

indemnity said, 1731539736

For a shiny black surface get a sample of Harlequin flooring, fabulous finish with no ghosting.

Unfocussed Mike said, 1731540819

indemnity said

Musou black paint is the blackest black.

It's also not massively expensive for what it is. But from what I can gather very smelly, and like Stuart Semple's Black 3.0/4.0, apparently it does crack and rub off a bit too easily.

I am not sure I really want any of these deep black paints around cameras because of that cracking/powdering.

But maybe if you're painting on top of blackboard paint it'll be OK.


indemnity said, 1731541602

Unfocussed Mike said

indemnity said

Musou black paint is the blackest black.

It's also not massively expensive for what it is. But from what I can gather very smelly, and like Stuart Semple's Black 3.0/4.0, apparently it does crack and rub off a bit too easily.

I am not sure I really want any of these deep black paints around cameras because of that cracking/powdering.

But maybe if you're painting on top of blackboard paint it'll be OK.


There's also paint by dip my car, that's fine. 

Simon Carter said, 1731578552

For a reflection get a piece of black acrylic from ebay. Don't use glass, you'll get a double reflection.




ClickMore 📷 said, 1731587262

otteypm Yes agree. Velvet absorbs the Light. Most black surfaces have a certain amount of reflectivity.

Sensual Art said, 1731614948

ClickMore 📷 said

otteypm Yes agree. Velvet absorbs the Light. Most black surfaces have a certain amount of reflectivity.

Thank you both for this.  I shall visit my local fabric shop at the weekend and see what they have.  And then probably look online anyway :)

Simon Carter said

For a reflection get a piece of black acrylic from ebay. Don't use glass, you'll get a double reflection.

Thank you for this.  I'd had the word acrylic in my mind already, but it's always reassuring to hear about specific reasons why one suggestion is better than another.

indemnity said

Musou black paint is the blackest black.

I'll probably not go for the paint, for the reasons Unfocussed Mike gave, but I noticed that they also do fabrics.  Sadly, that comes in at around €80/m² or more, with eye-watering prices for shipping, so I think I'll give that a miss too! :')

JPea said, 1731617180

There is a black material used by Magic Men for their illusions.

I have some that I bought a long time ago.

It works well.

Better than velvet.

indemnity said, 1731617407

Sensual Art Musou black is used for all sorts of applications for outdoor use too, cars get sprayed in it, perhaps what Mike is referring to is a craft paint or a particular brand.

will white said, 1731619001

I use black Formica , you can buy it by the sheet or you might be able to find off cuts. It’s available in matt and glossy

Simon Carter said, 1731625177

For a 100% black non-reflective texture free tabletop I’d expect to do some work in photoshop. Even stage velvet has some texture close up.

NuttyMonkey said, 1731627954

I find that a piece of black laminate kitchen worktop works well - available in high gloss or varying degrees of matt finish to suit your needs. It also provides good flatness.

MidgePhoto said, 1731629466

Simon Carter said

For a 100% black non-reflective texture free tabletop I’d expect to do some work in photoshop. Even stage velvet has some texture close up.


For black a fabric called "Black Molton" is available from theatrical fabric suppliers, up to 3m wide.
A 6m x 3m piece was about the cost of a roll of paper, and it's really black - paper can't be as black as this fabric, because the fabric has a furry surface and it really soaks up the light.
White Molton does exist but is less used.