We should be helping each other, not hurting each other

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tandi said

I think I remember this print in Athena years after and wondered who would ever put something like this on their wall, then I married him (the kinda guy who puts this type of thing on his wall) lol

 

It's been imitated several times on PP ...

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♥ Chiara Elisabetta

>>remember any freelance models also doing model photography from around 2005 - 2010-ish, but my network of connections wasn’t so vast then. It deffo seemed to pick up after that, then Covid probably escalated the push

I think Flickr, starting up a little after that, say 2014, gave female self-portrait artists quite a boost.

(I think Flickr, which is not enshitified as InstaThreadBook has been) is reviving a bit - distinct from assorted horrors)

The spread of the Web, the improvement of technology supported that early surge.

A later one comes from a change in standards - downward - with solo use of early smartphones, but newer phones and aesthetics are swinging back from that.

Change continues.

I'd also argue that Fashion and to a lesser extent Lingerie is more competitive becuase the reality is on here there's less demand.

There's not many "clothed" models I shoot with.  Actually I can only think of one, if I don't count the one who did implied but has lowered her levels since.  But my one-and-only go-to "clothed" model, who works to lingerie (and does do open shirt/jacket but that's as far as she generally goes) is absolutely exceptional.  And clearly others think the case because her calendar is even more busier than some nude models I know.

Gothic Image exactly 👍🏽

DJ200

Theyl reply and say im not the right one and thats becos i refuse to take my clothes off!! Show more ul get more shoots!! Whats the world coming to ayyyy 🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈

Or, maybe you just aren't right for their shoot...

Then they should really state quite simply, that they are not suitable for that shoot. There is no need for uncalled for advice about stripping off, if they want to book more shoots.

Afrofilmviewer

I focus on TFP, because it's what I primarily do on here.

My main focus is about encouraging the community on here to talk more on the threads and to perhaps find people who may, in the future, shoot something with each other. The gripe I have is that coming on forums should be bouncing ideas and finding connections in any genre, but without the mild to severe attacks received towards each other.

priceb61 Whilst that may be true,it does not address the comments that she has experienced. She should not receive such useless advice, especially when they have no beneficial reason to express them to her.

RHM.Photo

This: working together generally, whether paid or TF

This: Connections rely on interaction -

That's the crux of it. If we interact more, then good things happen, as we see from your examples.

MaristarOxley personally I think you are doing a good job of trying to engage the community. I like reading your inputs ☺️

Margo Jost thank you. I just wish I could articulate my thoughts better than I am doing.

🙏🏽

RHM.Photo said

MaristarOxley said

I genuinely would love to hear what we as a group could try to do to make collaborations, connections better.

A couple of things:

1. It depends on your definition of "collaboration" - is that working together generally, whether paid or TF, or do you mean it like others, in terms of there being no payment?

2. Connections rely on interaction - there are some people I've become friendly with on PP without meeting them, others I've gone on to meet (and indeed marry...) after initial interaction on PP, and then there are other people I just can't shake off like that bloody ♥ Chiara Elisabetta despite being incredibly rude to her, mocking her cancer diagnosis (she got me back when I died in a crash), and yet she still produces lovely images with me.

 
Bahahahaha, you were just jealous of my fuzzy no. 2 petting zoo..

Yes, that's something I didn't touch on actually.. just how many connections are made, even though this doesn't really translate on the forums here. The social circles are huge, even despite Covid. I've made friends for life through my job, even if physical meet-ups and messages can be inconsistent.. but I have ADHD and inconsistency with everything is part of my life & something I juggle whilst trying to navigate my business.

I'd say 90% of my friendships / connections and ALL of my closest friendships including long-term relationships are within this industry. I don't really know much outside of it, but it is vast and I often take it for granted just how much I am surrounded by quirky, creative, open-minded arty people.