We should be helping each other, not hurting each other

Kevin Connery MM was so bad for this. PP seems to be better and I am getting more messages from admin notifying me that accounts I've communicated with,have been removed.

It's a problem everywhere online.

I receive about 10 porn bots and scammers in my IG dMs every day and I'm just one person out of Millions 😲

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MaristarOxley said

Russ Freeman it's such a confounding thing, when some individuals are compelled to be negative for negative sake.

How do you know it's negative for negative sake? There are myriad possibilities that you haven't considered.

Are you certain it's not your projections and merely confirmation bias? or perhaps the fact that written text lacks intonation, or maybe it's your lack of empathy?

Communicating via text only is a new experience for humans, and it is unsurprising that misunderstandings happen so easily.  

Russ Freeman it's a response to others saying that there's a lot of negativity. Hey, I got blocked by someone on here, earlier and I'm pretty sure I was not doing anything wrong.

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Russ Freeman do I appear negative? I'm not intending to do that at all. I do find it difficult to convey or pick up tone.

Russ Freeman

sd photography54 said

"Russ Freeman you’re not that good at it as I have had to get in touch with admin to alert them about two people who have been banned on on here and open up another account under another name,

One of them opened two accounts and admin never noticed.

I suppose blowing your own trumpet is good for your ego even though it is out of tune."

This is what I was responding to.

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I would definitely say PP are getting better, although it did take them a while to rule on a model who created a second account, presumably to expunge from the record a series of DNSses. She's currently suspended until Christmas on both accounts.

MaristarOxley Sometimes a post can be read in a different tone of voice to

The one it was written in. If you see what I mean?

PP’s main role is to facilitate connections between ‘glamour’ models seeking paid work with photographers who want to pay for the experience.

IG is much better for fashion networking.

Russ Freeman I agree that you can see how a group post develops and when you go back over it, if you removed certain members from the conversation you can see that it would change the direction (and possibly tone) of the evolving conversation.

i hope whoever is tasked with that role is a good judge of character. I have had guns pointed at me several times by various people on these group posts, simply because of someone's negative take on what I had contributed to the conversation and I notice this happening to other people aswell. it often seems to be the same keyboard warriors or clan that rule the turf, and they need to not jump to conclusions so quickly because it only encourages others to pile in with more vitreol and then the innocent person is hounded out or may even dump the whole platform which is a great shame because the toxic vibes win whilst the genuine and honest get pushed out.

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with respect to the OP i think we've established that somehow we need the keep the groups a place where people feel welcomed and able to contribute.

i have noticed things have got better in the last few years but it's still a problem.

what does seem to work in networking and community though, is habit, trust and legacy, if I can put it that way - so what I mean is if you get a group of friends together and put them all in a room, they will generally get on.

now if you allow anyone else to enter the room, it is very easy for paranoia and suspicion to creep out of the woodwork as the newcomer to the group is unknown, therefore does not have community and legacy. so things can get a bit wild, especially if you have a whole bunch of newcomers.

so this applies to group posts here aswell. you have established clan and all is good, but newcomers can inadvertantly reveal negative traits in the established clan and so friction occurs, due to someones misunderstanding and handling of online text, because the newcomer is unknown and hasn't built up a legacy of trust and integrity.

to overcome this the newcomer needs to be acquainted over time you could say, so the trust, community and legacy thing come in to play.

unfortunately on this platform, there has been bias against newcomers by the established community so I think this needs to be considered so that new faces can feel welcomed and accepted even if they have flaws, but those flaws are also sometimes projected or imagined by others rather than true actual flaws.

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MaristarOxley said

Russ Freeman it's a response to others saying that there's a lot of negativity. Hey, I got blocked by someone on here, earlier and I'm pretty sure I was not doing anything wrong.

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Everyone has an opinion and everyone is entitled to voice it, you don't have to agree with them and they don't have to agree with you.

The funniest thing I ever read on here was from afrofilmviewer who commented on one of my posts where everyone was really against any change I had suggested and they weren't afraid to voice that opinion. He came in and said something like... "Logs in, Reads Post, Rolls eyes and gets on with my day" :-)

I have learnt so much from the groups that I didn't know before and people took time to educate and inform me, which I am grateful for. Those people didn't get paid for doing it, they had some free time and joined in a discussion which really helped me.

If someone is looking for work, all they have to do is post a casting, if they see a casting all they have to do is apply for it. In Birmingham there is a group of creatives that get together and spend time socialising and networking, if you don't have one in your area then possibly if you feel inclined, why not start one and create a real group rather than a virtual one :-)

PS: Love your fashion outfits in your profile, superb.

art65 that is the case for sure.

Maybe we need to introduce into text the tone we are at. Just like music sheets give you the tempo at the beginning 😉

parkway I agree with all you have said 👍🏽👍🏽

tandi it's going off- topic somewhat, but this part of your comment is where I get confused signals. I'm only trying to get some clarification as to if you are directing this towards myself, or a general point. This is where I can't read what tone this is sitting at.

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Everyone has an opinion and everyone is entitled to voice it, you don't have to agree with them and they don't have to agree with you.

MaristarOxley said

tandi it's going off- topic somewhat, but this part of your comment is where I get confused signals. I'm only trying to get some clarification as to if you are directing this towards myself, or a general point. This is where I can't read what tone this is sitting at.

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Everyone has an opinion and everyone is entitled to voice it, you don't have to agree with them and they don't have to agree with you.

You have quoted something that I personally believe, it isn't directed at you and I am truly sorry if you felt that was the case. I also was trying not to go off topic, I thought your post was about people  hurting each other in the groups with a lot of negativity. I was commenting on my own positive experience in the groups, but that people would sometimes not agree with my comments or posts, but I didn't take it as negativity, they were entitled to their opinion and I respected that.

I also added my recommendation how to make collaborations and improve networking as you asked.

MariastarOxley said-  "That's fine. I got involved in forums to see if I could find contacts. I did at the beginning, but it quickly became bombarded with a lot of negativity, especially for models posting. I genuinely would love to hear what we as a group could try to do to make collaborations, connections better."

Simon Carter the glamour models do glamour mainly because the photographers are happy to pay money for lingerie and nudes. Not because they love it so much. I am sure that many models prefer fashion or editorial than lingerie and nude.