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Is there really a difference between Photoshop and AI?

By MacMaghnuis, 1712911935

I love editing images in Photoshop. All the images on my portfolio have been photoshopped as anyone with an eye can tell. I've had criticism that I take it too far and that some of the images are veering into AI and lack character or personality. That is is the flaws in a person's face that are important. Does the spot healing tool or the patch tool or the liquify filter count as AI these days? Is there a creative difference between photoshopping and image and creating an image using text?

indemnity said, 1712912510

Text generated images are text generated images, a camera captures an image which is usually described as a photograph. Software manipulates the photograph into something between a disaster and a fantastic image. That's the way I personally see it.

Gothic Image said, 1712912995

I think the deciding factor is whether you started with an actual photo or a piece of text.

Don't be drawn in by software developers claiming their programs are "AI" either - in many cases it's simply jumping on the marketing bandwagon.

MacMaghnuis said, 1712913424

Being pedantic. A text to image AI image is created in the imagination of the person who generated the text, through the medium of the AI. A photograph is created in the imagination of the person pressing the shutter release through the manipulation of light, space and objects. The end result is a digital version image. Now there are great photographers (Albert Watson, Harry Benson, David Eustace) who perhaps have meaning in their images that AI can't reproduce. But the images in my portfolio, could they have been produced just as well or even better using AI?

indemnity said, 1712914516

MacMaghnuis said

Being pedantic. A text to image AI image is created in the imagination of the person who generated the text, through the medium of the AI. A photograph is created in the imagination of the person pressing the shutter release through the manipulation of light, space and objects. The end result is a digital version image. Now there are great photographers (Albert Watson, Harry Benson, David Eustace) who perhaps have meaning in their images that AI can't reproduce. But the images in my portfolio, could they have been produced just as well or even better using AI?

Are eleven fingers better than ten?

Edited by indemnity

Allesandro B said, 1712914819

MacMaghnuis said

Being pedantic. A text to image AI image is created in the imagination of the person who generated the text, through the medium of the AI. A photograph is created in the imagination of the person pressing the shutter release through the manipulation of light, space and objects. The end result is a digital version image. Now there are great photographers (Albert Watson, Harry Benson, David Eustace) who perhaps have meaning in their images that AI can't reproduce. But the images in my portfolio, could they have been produced just as well or even better using AI?

a photograph is an image of a person and was captured by someone standing there at that moment in time. text to image is just completely made up.

Huw said, 1712916155

If you retouch and liquify until it looks like a doll, not a person, AI will replace you pretty soon.

If your photos look like real people, then it’ll take a bit longer.

HotFridgePhotos said, 1712916712

Is there really a difference between Photoshop and AI?

Well PurplePort say that yes, there is, so that is good enough for me.

Danny. said, 1712917981

You love doing what you do and that’s all that really matters. Some people will think or say whatever it is they want to think or say. You’re not editing the images for them. They can photoshop off.

If the look or effect you create makes you happy then you crack on with that. (y)

Edited by Danny.

Jon Taylor said, 1712918186

Huw said

If you retouch and liquify until it looks like a doll, not a person, AI will replace you pretty soon.

If your photos look like real people, then it’ll take a bit longer.

Jonathan C said, 1712918288

Gothic Image said

I think the deciding factor is whether you started with an actual photo or a piece of text.

Don't be drawn in by software developers claiming their programs are "AI" either - in many cases it's simply jumping on the marketing bandwagon.

As a software developer myself, I'm reasonably confident that in a lot of cases it's not the software developers themselves who are making "AI" claims, and they're just as irritated by marketings labelling as everyone else!

Gothic Image said, 1712918536

Jonathan C said

Gothic Image said

I think the deciding factor is whether you started with an actual photo or a piece of text.

Don't be drawn in by software developers claiming their programs are "AI" either - in many cases it's simply jumping on the marketing bandwagon.

As a software developer myself, I'm reasonably confident that in a lot of cases it's not the software developers themselves who are making "AI" claims, and they're just as irritated by marketings labelling as everyone else!

I suspect that you're right - my apologies! :-)

Feel The Passion said, 1712919560

IMHO there is a HUGE difference between Photoshop and AI

Photoshop can be used for a multitude of subtle or extreme changes to an image.

AI in its current form is simple taking what it has learned from existing images, including those created by AI itself, and making a mash up image based on prompts input by the user. Please note the term "user" - AI is not sitting n the cloud somewhere creating images as it sees fit, Still needs us good old squidgy biological entities before it can do diddly squat.

The AI images that I see posted on social media and other internet sites are becoming very generic and everything looks the same. At least Photoshopped images, for good or bad, reflect the creator's skills set and intentions.

I wonder how many AI created images are then Photoshopped to correct the errors?

MacMaghnuis said, 1712921876

Danny. Agreed.

Timmee said, 1712922918

I'm not sure exactly where it is but there is a point where if something that you do is completely automated, then it's no longer YOU doing it. If it's something creative and something you enjoy doing, why would you surrender that engagement, and allow yourself to be spoon-fed everything like a helpless baby.