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Retouchguy said, 1704718032

-sp●●n- after they chose for fpi 🥲 that’s just silly

-sp●●n- said, 1704718118

Silly in that I could not have been any more open about this image, it is a real model, and the image of the model is not actually changed too much, it was captured well and just needed sharpening, a bit of skin smoothing and levels...

Retouchguy said, 1704718250

People have been adding digital backgrounds for a decade, there’s literally hundreds in fpi with digitally enhanced backgrounds and sfx added

Edited by Retouchguy

Gothic Image said, 1704719178

-sp●●n- said

And the image has been deleted by admin for AI use, when the background was AI and is not against the rules. I appeal the deletion...


That seems rather odd bearing in mind the amount of previous discussion in this thread?

2W Location said, 1704720385

Gothic Image did it actually get to 40 votes though, as when I checked it was unlikely to get an FPI otherwise? There’s a few got through today due to elf inactivity/apathy :(

-sp●●n- said, 1704720983

2W Location said

Gothic Image did it actually get to 40 votes though, as when I checked it was unlikely to get an FPI otherwise? There’s a few got through today due to elf inactivity/apathy :(


Two separate things, the FPI has not been removed, the image has been removed from the site.

-sp●●n- said, 1704722335

The admin has responded "The background was AI and part of the model by the looks of it."

yet if look at the image upload guidance:

Machine generated images

Uploading images generated using services (such as Midjourney/DALL-E/Craiyon/Stable Diffusion/etc.), where you type a phrase or description of the desired image and a machine algorithm (often called A.I) creates an image for you, is banned from PurplePort.

You can use such images for backgrounds in the same way that commercial background images or textures might be used.


I highlighted in bold the specifics, I could argue the legs another time, they were a small part of the image and would have been easy to pull from elsewhere, I perhaps even had legs from the same shoot could have used. The issue is banning the background, stock sites themselves are switching to AI, I cannot believe PP are making it difficult to generate images on technicalities (I could have pulled the same image from iStock, would never have known if was real or not and that would have been ok).

Gothic Image said, 1704723052

So it appears to me that the background is OK but the legs aren't?  That would agree with the PP image guidance.

Allesandro B said, 1704723144

-sp●●n- said

The admin has responded "The background was AI and part of the model by the looks of it."

yet if look at the image upload guidance:

Machine generated images

Uploading images generated using services (such as Midjourney/DALL-E/Craiyon/Stable Diffusion/etc.), where you type a phrase or description of the desired image and a machine algorithm (often called A.I) creates an image for you, is banned from PurplePort.

You can use such images for backgrounds in the same way that commercial background images or textures might be used.


I highlighted in bold the specifics, I could argue the legs another time, they were a small part of the image and would have been easy to pull from elsewhere, I perhaps even had legs from the same shoot could have used. The issue is banning the background, stock sites themselves are switching to AI, I cannot believe PP are making it difficult to generate images on technicalities (I could have pulled the same image from iStock, would never have known if was real or not and that would have been ok).

"and part of the model" is the gotcha I would think.  

Laura SJ FD (staff) said, 1704723167

Gothic Image said

So it appears to me that the background is OK but the legs aren't?  That would agree with the PP image guidance.


That's right. 

FiL said, 1704723238 ... Comment buried because it was unsolicited critique

-sp●●n- said, 1704723444

I asked Russ about specific things, did not ask specifically about generating part of a missing body (insignificant IMHO, I could have pulled legs from elsewhere, just did the easiest option), even PS has generative fill, imaging shooting a model and missing her feet/shoes, PS to the rescue, the image has shoes and feet, and the overall image is exactly the same. That is the case here, unless you are somekind of legs fetish, legs are pretty much legs.

Anyhow this is what I asked Russ:

-sp●●n- said

Russ Freeman here is a go:

1) skin retouching

2) generative fill to remove unwanted objects (might be part of the model, such as model wearing hat, remove hat)

3) changing facial features, such as give the model a more Mediterranean look, change tan

4) alter clothing, etc: change colour, lengthen a skirt, add an accessory, fancy handbag, hat

5) change model figure, taller, shorter, loose or gain pounds

6) change hair, from brunette to blonde, long hair to short

7) Alter the angle a model was shot at, rotate 20 degrees to right

Some of these are not easily possible, but they are coming to photoshop for certain

  1. That's fine (*)
  2. That's fine (*)
  3. That's fine (*)
  4. Depends on how much (*)
  5. Depends on how much (*)
  6. That's fine (*)
  7. I'd need to see it (*)

* But if it is too much, or it looks like AI did all of the work, or if it looks like it was just created with a prompt, then it should be reported so our lovely Admin can make a decision and remove it pending proof that the image was a photo that has been edited, not a hallucination based on machine-generated plagiarism. 

It has been suggested by admin I remove the AI legs and replace with real legs and re-upload the image, not sure I can be bothered TBH, it is creating unnecessary work when modern tools are available.

-sp●●n- said, 1704723770 ... Comment buried because it quoted a buried reply

FiL said, 1704723877 ... Comment buried because it was a personal attack

Admin said, 1704725307

No personal attacks, please!