Impact of the recently identified 'false negative' PCR Tests from the Wolverhampton laboratory

3RDi said

-sp●●n- So true to form. Which part is false? That there have been false positives that constantly drive this narrative? Or that these actions and those complicit are contemptable?

Or that you cry 'misinformation' every time someone challenges the prescribed narrative?

How many jabs will it take to go back to normal? To stop you wearing masks?

When does it end? And when do you draw a line in the sand?

You want to jab little kids and you think that's ok?

Which information have you found that supports this move? Chris Whitty deliberately ignored the medical advice he was given on this subject.

Which part of that is misinformation?

You sir, are part of that particular vehicle.

“Charade”

3RDi said

… Chris Whitty deliberately ignored the medical advice he was given on this subject….

You mean Professor Christopher John MacRae Whitty CB FRCP FFPH FMedSci is a British physician and epidemiologist serving as Chief Medical Officer for England and Chief Medical Adviser to the UK Government since 2019?

I’m pretty sure he’s medically qualified, and paid to give advice to the government….

Huw said

3RDi said

… Chris Whitty deliberately ignored the medical advice he was given on this subject….

You mean Professor Christopher John MacRae Whitty CB FRCP FFPH FMedSci is a British physician and epidemiologist serving as Chief Medical Officer for England and Chief Medical Adviser to the UK Government since 2019?

I’m pretty sure he’s medically qualified, and paid to give advice to the government….

Probably less well qualified than anyone with a frontal lobotomy who Googles conspiracy sites - not that that applies to anyone here.

As we're approaching panto season....."Oh yes it does"

Huw said

3RDi said

… Chris Whitty deliberately ignored the medical advice he was given on this subject….

You mean Professor Christopher John MacRae Whitty CB FRCP FFPH FMedSci is a British physician and epidemiologist serving as Chief Medical Officer for England and Chief Medical Adviser to the UK Government since 2019?

I’m pretty sure he’s medically qualified, and paid to give advice to the government….

Yeah but...

No but...

No...

You see my mate Nobby whot I see dahn the pub. His mate's brother-in-law used to work for a herbalist in Widdecombe-in-the-Moor, who had done yer actual SIX MONTH course in flower remedies. on line wiv a geezer in Ohio and HE says that Chris Whitty is a plonker and he should know 'cos he's got a stiffcate an' all and it's in his kitchen on the wall next to his third in the Strange Poultry class at Devon County Show.

Anyway, whot do experts know? NUFFIN'!

I use Nobby to pull out me teef when they start to smell too bad and I am usually back on me feet in a mumf just from eating dandelion leaves and nettle soup.

Rub a bit of cow dung in yer leg ulcers and they weep a treat. Who needs ruddy badinages?

Yer all igerant plonkers and Chris Whitty is a lizard. Innit?

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In 45 years of clinical practise I have lost count of the number of serious injured people I have dealt with.
I have NEVER had some one lying on a trolley in A/E with a couple of inches of tibia sticking out of their leg, shouting, "I am in agony. Send the doctors away and bring me a homeopath or a Bach's Flower Remedy."

Iain Rodgers said

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14,000 preventable deaths since "freedom day"? 14,000 deaths is the approximate TOTAL of "COVID" deaths since July.

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Given that most COVID deaths are of people who have underlying conditions this is just more propaganda.

Therefore, if your figures are correct, it is the upper limit of extra deaths.

The additional deaths derive not solely from the single instance of a failed lab being selected by unconventional methods, but from several aspects of government policy, and if that is compared to, for instance, New Zealand's policies and outcome, it does look as if the excess deaths approach that upper bound.

So "up to" in either the newspaper or mathematical usage is at least defensible.

Government policies, not so much.

Most is another of those words which have the same fault you are complaining of - imprecision in use.

Most deaths from road traffic collisions where two vehicles impact head-on at a closing speed in excess of 100mph are of people who have underlying conditions.

Underlying conditions are quite common.

However, if you know of a death certificate issued with a cause of death in section 1 which is incorrect, please let your local coroner know, or publish it here, as people are really interested in those.

Empirically, if the condition certified on the medical certificate of cause of death, or the Coroner's verdict, is COVID, then the person died of COVID.

Australia?

Jabs for kids?

No amount of group hate or courage-in-numbers can explain away these atrocities.

And as I said before, for allowing this and a lot more to happen, whilst you are busy gaining browny points and slandering anyone who has the courage to speak out against this- and so much more, you really ought to be ashamed of yourselves.

Of course you are not. But you have demonstrated your level of courage and empathy and I think I can guess, how strong you are going to be when they eventually, come knocking on your door.

And mark my words, that is going happen...

Hope it doesn't, but that is where we are headed.

Just question what is going on?

I know it's more comfortable to make fun of me or anyone else who comes on here, but just question some of the things that are going on around us.

At least try.

3RDi said

Just question what is going on?

I know it's more comfortable to make fun of me or anyone else who comes on here, but just question some of the things that are going on around us.

At least try.

I'm trying to question it.

I'm questioning everything from every side.

I'm questioning the assertions made by the scientists (epidemiologists, virologists, immunologists, and others) and questioning their motives, their backgrounds, their paymasters, their competencies, and their application of the scientific method in scrutinising their data and methods.  Do bear in mind that the scientific community thrives on disproving each other's findings, as that builds their own reputations.

I'm also questioning those who, like you, are peddling what is "against" the received wisdom, and applying the same standards.  I've yet to see anything like the same level of critical thinking and research backed up with evidence on this side of the argument.  Please present it.  Fobbing me off with "do your own research" simply tells me that it's not their, or it won't be credible.  Please prove me wrong.

3RDi said

Just question what is going on?

I know it's more comfortable to make fun of me or anyone else who comes on here, but just question some of the things that are going on around us.

At least try.

Just post in the General Politics forum.

https://purpleport.com/group/general-politics/ 

That's the right place for your stuff.

Or give citations to back up what you say if you post here - as the group rules require.
This is a fact based group.

We have a whole island of people who want the borders opened and hang the death count.  It's much harder to combat them here, as we've only had two deaths in total (both came to the island) and have only recently had any community transmission in a population where over 90% of at-risk people are fully vaccinated.

Chatting with someone in the UK today, they pointed out that we have a tiny population and I retorted that a per capita equivalent with the UK would have given us 150 deaths, but it's not as simple as that.

At least in the UK, you generally know at least one person who has died (I know 3) and at least one person who has long-covid (I know one), so it's easier to combat the anti-vaxxer morons and the conspiracy theorists.

We're planning to re-open the island to tourists in late November (although not quite in the way that the media or morons expect) so it will be interesting to see what plays out after that...

I don't seek to make fun of those who, having read some drivel on the internet, choose to question the wisdom of qualified and experienced scientists. I despise them. Where do they think the world would be now if those scientists had not developed the vaccines that have saved millions. 

3RDi said

Just question what is going on?

I know it's more comfortable to make fun of me or anyone else who comes on here, but just question some of the things that are going on around us.

At least try.

As we have told you countless times before, most of us have questioned, researched and determined our opinions based on credible scientific evidence and as we have been trained to do. Many of us have had to critically review data many times in the past and have published scientific papers proving our ability to question and evaulate. To put it bluntly, I had seen some total bollocks during my research projects, but I was able to recognise it as bollocks. I have reviewed quite a large amount of data relating to COVID-19 and SARS-CoV-2, including some contradictory evidence. Some of the contradictory evidence holds up at first glance, but isn't conclusive, other stuff is just pure conspiracy theories or people peddling their own agenda (often trying to sell very dubious products), usually money. Some of us see the local data before PHE (or Health Secury Agency as it is now known as) or the Government, so they have not had the chance to "doctor" the data, even if they had a mind to.

Huw said

3RDi said

Just question what is going on?

I know it's more comfortable to make fun of me or anyone else who comes on here, but just question some of the things that are going on around us.

At least try.

Just post in the General Politics forum.

https://purpleport.com/group/general-politics/ 

That's the right place for your stuff.

Or give citations to back up what you say if you post here - as the group rules require.
This is a fact based group.

By and large. The grown-ups in the room can argue as to whether there is an intentional campaign of geronticide being carried out which, as conservative voting skews older and male, makes absolutely no sense or if our government is totally incompetent. There are a few sitting Conservative MPs who would probably lose their seats if an election was called right now, just due to the number of deaths in their core voter demographic exceeding their majority. That's to say nothing of nothing of the disgruntled families who blame Boris and co for the death of their elderly relatives.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/weeklyprovisionalfiguresondeathsregisteredinenglandandwales