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When you say you don't care, do you really mean it?

JonC said, 1734265505

JPea said

JonC

As I understand it, suggesting an image for an FPI has little to no effect on what images are chosen as FPIs.

Or have I got that wrong?

You are right - and that was partly my point - which was that the suggested list is what the general membership think should be an FPI (as anyone can suggest images) in specific response to Margo's assertion that the membership want originality. The suggested list contains a far higher degree of nudity than those that actually become FPIs. There is a significant number of images that are 'suggested; that (as far as I can see) are only suggested because they are nude, rather than because the image is actually any good (striking, a good advert for the site etc). I did not imply that nudes are any more or less worthy/quality in of themselves

ANDY00 said, 1734266037

When people are busy, they produce more images and collaborate with more creatives, who also upload and share those images. Naturally, this creates a ripple effect. Busy times are limited, and when the popularity of a particular look or style fades, so does the buzz to some extent. So, do people who are more active, busy, and popular get more FPIs? Of course—it's simple math. They are consistently producing creative content with more collaborators and getting seen more frequently than those who are less active.

To limit how many FPIs someone can receive would, in my opinion, be unfair. Models (many of them, at least) often only have a few years of peak popularity, and that’s their opportunity to build a career and make money. They pay for their PP VIP membership and should not be limited in the benefits they earn, simply to make others feel better about themselves. We should all be supporting one another, anyway—just my humble opinion.

MaristarOxley said, 1734267360

Malbon

That's being discussed on another group post atm

MaristarOxley said, 1734267581

Afrofilmviewer

Quote:

"Genuine question

How would you look to change the system? If it's boring and predictable or the same old people seem to be getting it.

What exactly would you change for a "fairer" system?"

That's for PP to want to do. It certainly needs a change, because as I am seeing here, a fair amount of people ( including myself) have switched off the widget. I get more genuine satisfaction seeing the recently posted feed.

MaristarOxley said, 1734267756

jmbphoto

I hear what you say. Influencers have algorithms that boost them too. PP doesn't have that. They could change things if they felt a need and benefit in doing so. I'm sure that they don't make money from doing the FPIs, so they could switch things up for the benefit of the platform.

MaristarOxley said, 1734267964

JME Studios

Quote:

"The same handful of models come around over and over and over again - I've nothing against those models, they're all excellent and I've actually shot with a couple of them. But I'd like to see a broader church."

I do agree that it's the same three or four models flooding the FPI feed and they are excellent models, but I would like others to either get a look- in, or for there to be a restriction on how many one can get in a month.

MaristarOxley said, 1734268978

Orson Carter

A jack Daniels and some crisps'll do me 😀

Tim Pile said, 1734270207

MaristarOxley said

JME Studios

Quote:

"The same handful of models come around over and over and over again - I've nothing against those models, they're all excellent and I've actually shot with a couple of them. But I'd like to see a broader church."

I do agree that it's the same three or four models flooding the FPI feed and they are excellent models, but I would like others to either get a look- in, or for there to be a restriction on how many one can get in a month.

I don't look at the FPI feed, so decided to have a look. I didn't see "three or four models flooding the FPI feed", I saw a huge number of models and photographers that I didn't know, and which made me click through to their profile. There were of course a number of images from models and photographers I do recognise, and I suspect that they shoot and post a lot.

Noticeable by their omission were a number of models and photographers who I thought would be included in the "three or four models flooding the FPI feed" (I expanded it to who I thought would be in the top 10 of each), although I suspect if I went far enough back I would find an image from them.

I thought there was "a restriction on how many one can get in a month." in that you can only get one every 48 hours or so.

I think the FPI system works reasonably well, it acts as a shop window for the site, it generates debate, it does no harm, many people get a little fillip when they get one, and it gives novice photographers/models a goal to work towards if they want to.

I also find that my images that get an FPI often also do well in national and international exhibitions, and vice versa.

For those who want a contest judged by all the members at large there's the daily competition.

ANDY00 said, 1734271219

Tim Pile said

MaristarOxley said

JME Studios

Quote:

"The same handful of models come around over and over and over again - I've nothing against those models, they're all excellent and I've actually shot with a couple of them. But I'd like to see a broader church."

I do agree that it's the same three or four models flooding the FPI feed and they are excellent models, but I would like others to either get a look- in, or for there to be a restriction on how many one can get in a month.

I don't look at the FPI feed, so decided to have a look. I didn't see "three or four models flooding the FPI feed", I saw a huge number of models and photographers that I didn't know, and which made me click through to their profile. There were of course a number of images from models and photographers I do recognise, and I suspect that they shoot and post a lot.

Noticeable by their omission were a number of models and photographers who I thought would be included in the "three or four models flooding the FPI feed" (I expanded it to who I thought would be in the top 10 of each), although I suspect if I went far enough back I would find an image from them.

I thought there was "a restriction on how many one can get in a month." in that you can only get one every 48 hours or so.

I think the FPI system works reasonably well, it acts as a shop window for the site, it generates debate, it does no harm, many people get a little fillip when they get one, and it gives novice photographers/models a goal to work towards if they want to.

I also find that my images that get an FPI often also do well in national and international exhibitions, and vice versa.

For those who want a contest judged by all the members at large there's the daily competition.

There’s no such restriction. I only know this because some time ago, I noticed the same image appearing twice as an FPI on the front page at the same time. Thinking it was a glitch in the matrix, I reported it. However, it turned out to be my mistake—one version of the image had been posted by the model and the other by the photographer who took it. Both had received FPIs almost simultaneously, meaning they were both featured on the landing page at the same time.

I honestly don’t think reducing the number of FPIs, Rosettas, or awards is the solution. Instead, we should focus on giving more recognition to those who could use a confidence boost—those who are genuinely trying but still in the process of learning.

Or for those models who are new but not getting as much notice as the more well-known models who seem to get all the work, or for photographers who are struggling to find models they haven’t already worked with.

Or just People that need a pat on the back to say, your doing great, keep going :-)

Edited by ANDY00

Tim Pile said, 1734271420

ANDY00 said

There’s no such restriction. I only know this because some time ago, I noticed the same image appearing twice as an FPI on the front page at the same time. Thinking it was a glitch in the matrix, I reported it. However, it turned out to be my mistake—one version of the image had been posted by the model and the other by the photographer who took it. Both had received FPIs almost simultaneously, meaning they were both featured on the landing page at the same time.

I stand corrected, I had always believed there was a 48 hour limit, and it is quoted on a previous page by Jonc "There are rules that prevent the same model/photographer (and I think Studio) getting an FPI within 48 hours (+ a random bit)" who I thought may be an FPI picker so may know the rules.

There did used to be such a rule, as when Raphaella left the site, suddenly she was untagged from all her images on photographers profiles, and the front page was absolutely full of them, which was a nice unintended tribute to a fabulous model.

https://purpleport.com/group/let-s-talk-about-fpis/91243/It-s-raining-Raphy----/
https://purpleport.com/group/let-s-talk-about-fpis/91277/what-is-happening-to-the-fpi-s-today-/page/1/

Edited by Tim Pile

ANDY00 said, 1734271686

Tim Pile said

ANDY00 said

There’s no such restriction. I only know this because some time ago, I noticed the same image appearing twice as an FPI on the front page at the same time. Thinking it was a glitch in the matrix, I reported it. However, it turned out to be my mistake—one version of the image had been posted by the model and the other by the photographer who took it. Both had received FPIs almost simultaneously, meaning they were both featured on the landing page at the same time.

I stand corrected, I had always believed there was a 48 hour limit, and it is quoted on a previous page by Jonc "There are rules that prevent the same model/photographer (and I think Studio) getting an FPI within 48 hours (+ a random bit)" who I thought may be an FPI picker so may know the rules.

There did used to be such a rule, as when Raphaella left the site, suddenly she was untagged from all her images on photographers profiles, and the front page was absolutely full of them, which was a nice unintended tribute to a fabulous model.

https://purpleport.com/group/let-s-talk-about-fpis/91243/It-s-raining-Raphy----/
https://purpleport.com/group/let-s-talk-about-fpis/91277/what-is-happening-to-the-fpi-s-today-/page/1/

Edited by Tim Pile

Edited by Tim Pile

She was an incredible model and very busy. There may have been a rule about this in the past, but having seen the same image simultaneously featured on the landing page as an FPI with identical tags, I have to assume that rule no longer applies Tim :-)

Russ Freeman (staff) said, 1734272637

There is a rule, which has been around for a very long time, that means someone tagged in an FPI cannot be tagged in another for 50 hours + (a random number between 0 and 24), so the earliest someone can be tagged in an FPI is 50 hours after their last one.

ANDY00 said, 1734272932

Russ Freeman said

There is a rule, which has been around for a very long time, that means someone tagged in an FPI cannot be tagged in another for 50 hours + (a random number between 0 and 24), so the earliest someone can be tagged in an FPI is 50 hours after their last one.

Ah but they can end up on FPI's at same time ? genuine question becasue i have seen it happen, And i dont fully understand the full journey of an FPI :-)