When you say you don't care, do you really mean it?
Gothic Image said, 1734297675
JPea said
One interesting but trivial feature of this discussion is the large variation in what people consider to be an outstanding photographic image.
.. and the number of people who still think that an FPI is an award for an outstanding photographic image. It is, in effect, a brief for people to shoot to. If people don't shoot to fit that brief, it doesn't matter how outstanding the image is.
ANDY00 said, 1734298422
Gothic Image said
JPea said
One interesting but trivial feature of this discussion is the large variation in what people consider to be an outstanding photographic image.
.. and the number of people who still think that an FPI is an award for an outstanding photographic image. It is, in effect, a brief for people to shoot to. If people don't shoot to fit that brief, it doesn't matter how outstanding the image is.
Do they give FPIs to unappealing images? Personally, whenever I check the front page, I see clever, high-level, inspirational images that showcase great skill and vision. If you need to demonstrate these qualities to be awarded an FPI, then it is a badge of quality—whether you choose to see it that way or not. That’s just a fact.
It may not have been intended as such, but functionally, that’s what it is. Low-quality images don’t meet the standard to achieve it, so earning an FPI signifies that your image met or exceeded the bar of quality required. In other words, your image stood out as outstanding, which is why it was awarded an FPI.
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Gothic Image said, 1734298397
ANDY00 said
Gothic Image said
JPea said
One interesting but trivial feature of this discussion is the large variation in what people consider to be an outstanding photographic image.
.. and the number of people who still think that an FPI is an award for an outstanding photographic image. It is, in effect, a brief for people to shoot to. If people don't shoot to fit that brief, it doesn't matter how outstanding the image is.
Do they give FPIs to unappealing images? Personally, whenever I check the front page, I see clever, high-level, inspirational images that showcase great skill and vision. If you need to demonstrate these qualities to be awarded an FPI, then it is a badge of quality—whether you choose to see it that way or not. That’s just a fact.
It may not have been intended as such, but functionally, that’s what it is. Low-quality images don’t meet the standard to achieve it, so earning an FPI denotes that your image was good enough to reach the bar of quality required.
Precisely - it has to fit the brief and be of sufficient quality. It has to be both, not good quality in isolation.
ANDY00 said, 1734298758
Gothic Image said
ANDY00 said
Gothic Image said
JPea said
One interesting but trivial feature of this discussion is the large variation in what people consider to be an outstanding photographic image.
.. and the number of people who still think that an FPI is an award for an outstanding photographic image. It is, in effect, a brief for people to shoot to. If people don't shoot to fit that brief, it doesn't matter how outstanding the image is.
Do they give FPIs to unappealing images? Personally, whenever I check the front page, I see clever, high-level, inspirational images that showcase great skill and vision. If you need to demonstrate these qualities to be awarded an FPI, then it is a badge of quality—whether you choose to see it that way or not. That’s just a fact.
It may not have been intended as such, but functionally, that’s what it is. Low-quality images don’t meet the standard to achieve it, so earning an FPI denotes that your image was good enough to reach the bar of quality required.
Precisely - it has to fit the brief and be of sufficient quality. It has to be both, not good quality in isolation.
But it is an award that is ~AWARDED for quality and outstanding images......
And it ultimately comes down to the tastes of the particular "elves" who judge your image, along with the site members who may have suggested it. Receiving the award signifies that the image is of a higher standard and, therefore, ipso facto, a merit badge of excellence.
Gothic Image said, 1734299135
ANDY00 said
Gothic Image said
ANDY00 said
Gothic Image said
JPea said
One interesting but trivial feature of this discussion is the large variation in what people consider to be an outstanding photographic image.
.. and the number of people who still think that an FPI is an award for an outstanding photographic image. It is, in effect, a brief for people to shoot to. If people don't shoot to fit that brief, it doesn't matter how outstanding the image is.
Do they give FPIs to unappealing images? Personally, whenever I check the front page, I see clever, high-level, inspirational images that showcase great skill and vision. If you need to demonstrate these qualities to be awarded an FPI, then it is a badge of quality—whether you choose to see it that way or not. That’s just a fact.
It may not have been intended as such, but functionally, that’s what it is. Low-quality images don’t meet the standard to achieve it, so earning an FPI denotes that your image was good enough to reach the bar of quality required.
Precisely - it has to fit the brief and be of sufficient quality. It has to be both, not good quality in isolation.
But it is an award that is ~AWARDED for quality and outstanding images......And it ultimately comes down to the tastes of the particular "elves" who judge your image, along with the site members who may have suggested it. Receiving the award signifies that the image is of a higher standard and, therefore, ipso facto, a merit badge of excellence.
I refer you to my previous answer ...
ANDY00 said, 1734299369
Gothic Image said
ANDY00 said
Gothic Image said
ANDY00 said
Gothic Image said
JPea said
One interesting but trivial feature of this discussion is the large variation in what people consider to be an outstanding photographic image.
.. and the number of people who still think that an FPI is an award for an outstanding photographic image. It is, in effect, a brief for people to shoot to. If people don't shoot to fit that brief, it doesn't matter how outstanding the image is.
Do they give FPIs to unappealing images? Personally, whenever I check the front page, I see clever, high-level, inspirational images that showcase great skill and vision. If you need to demonstrate these qualities to be awarded an FPI, then it is a badge of quality—whether you choose to see it that way or not. That’s just a fact.
It may not have been intended as such, but functionally, that’s what it is. Low-quality images don’t meet the standard to achieve it, so earning an FPI denotes that your image was good enough to reach the bar of quality required.
Precisely - it has to fit the brief and be of sufficient quality. It has to be both, not good quality in isolation.
But it is an award that is ~AWARDED for quality and outstanding images......And it ultimately comes down to the tastes of the particular "elves" who judge your image, along with the site members who may have suggested it. Receiving the award signifies that the image is of a higher standard and, therefore, ipso facto, a merit badge of excellence.
I refer you to my previous answer ...
This one ? - Gothic image said "and the number of people who still think that an FPI is an award for an outstanding photographic image"
Yep, that’s exactly what I’ve answered—they think it is because...well, it clearly is! :-)
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Gothic Image said, 1734299535
ANDY00 said
I refer you to my previous answer ...
This one ? - Gothic image said "and the number of people who still think that an FPI is an award for an outstanding photographic image"Yep, that’s exactly what I’ve answered—they think it is because...well, it clearly is! :-)
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No, this one, and note the text in bold: "Precisely - it has to fit the brief and be of sufficient quality. It has to be both, not good quality in isolation."
I'm not disputing that an FPI doesn't have to be of good quality, but quality alone isn't sufficient. That's what a lot of people don't seem to understand.
ANDY00 said, 1734299979
Gothic Image said
ANDY00 said
I refer you to my previous answer ...
This one ? - Gothic image said "and the number of people who still think that an FPI is an award for an outstanding photographic image"Yep, that’s exactly what I’ve answered—they think it is because...well, it clearly is! :-)
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No, this one, and note the text in bold: "Precisely - it has to fit the brief and be of sufficient quality. It has to be both, not good quality in isolation."I'm not disputing that an FPI doesn't have to be of good quality, but quality alone isn't sufficient. That's what a lot of people don't seem to understand.
The point is it is a merit badge. end of
Maybe for some, especially those with more experience and skill who have had lots of them, FPIs aren’t something they worry about or think much about. But for those starting out, they aspire to that badge as a marker of progress and improvement. It’s a big pat on the back for many.
Yes, while it serves as advertising for the site, it also has a clear purpose within the community, which has become embedded in its culture.
Gothic Image said, 1734300208
I'm obviously not explaining myself very well, so I think I'll stop there.
ANDY00 said, 1734300299
Gothic Image said
I'm obviously not explaining myself very well, so I think I'll stop there.
Sorry it may be me missing your point but probably best.
OriginalSin said, 1734300467
ANDY00 said
Russ Freeman said
I dislike guessing, and I am lazy, so I queried the DB and got the DB server to calculate the time difference between the two images you reported in May.
honestly thought the images on FPI moved much faster than that, but as i said you know better and as ive said i have zero issue with FPI system...
Why'd you report one then? :-D
ANDY00 said, 1734300985
OriginalSin said
ANDY00 said
Russ Freeman said
I dislike guessing, and I am lazy, so I queried the DB and got the DB server to calculate the time difference between the two images you reported in May.
honestly thought the images on FPI moved much faster than that, but as i said you know better and as ive said i have zero issue with FPI system...
Why'd you report one then? :-D
As i said the exact same image was on the fpis twice only few squares apart so i thought it was a code error.
It was months ago, but I seem to recall there were a couple of posts at the time about the FPI queue not moving or moving unusually slowly, which might have contributed to the thought that it was part of a glitch.
However, that was my mistake, as I hadn’t noticed that one version had been uploaded by the model and the other by the photographer. Both had received an FPI for the same image, which just gave me a serious case of déjà vu.
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Tim Pile said, 1734300904
Gothic Image said
ANDY00 said
Gothic Image said
JPea said
One interesting but trivial feature of this discussion is the large variation in what people consider to be an outstanding photographic image.
.. and the number of people who still think that an FPI is an award for an outstanding photographic image. It is, in effect, a brief for people to shoot to. If people don't shoot to fit that brief, it doesn't matter how outstanding the image is.
Do they give FPIs to unappealing images? Personally, whenever I check the front page, I see clever, high-level, inspirational images that showcase great skill and vision. If you need to demonstrate these qualities to be awarded an FPI, then it is a badge of quality—whether you choose to see it that way or not. That’s just a fact.
It may not have been intended as such, but functionally, that’s what it is. Low-quality images don’t meet the standard to achieve it, so earning an FPI denotes that your image was good enough to reach the bar of quality required.
Precisely - it has to fit the brief and be of sufficient quality. It has to be both, not good quality in isolation.
This is meant as a genuine question, what do you think the “brief” is that the images have to meet to be considered for an FPI?
ANDY00 said, 1734301359
Tim Pile said
Gothic Image said
ANDY00 said
Gothic Image said
JPea said
One interesting but trivial feature of this discussion is the large variation in what people consider to be an outstanding photographic image.
.. and the number of people who still think that an FPI is an award for an outstanding photographic image. It is, in effect, a brief for people to shoot to. If people don't shoot to fit that brief, it doesn't matter how outstanding the image is.
Do they give FPIs to unappealing images? Personally, whenever I check the front page, I see clever, high-level, inspirational images that showcase great skill and vision. If you need to demonstrate these qualities to be awarded an FPI, then it is a badge of quality—whether you choose to see it that way or not. That’s just a fact.
It may not have been intended as such, but functionally, that’s what it is. Low-quality images don’t meet the standard to achieve it, so earning an FPI denotes that your image was good enough to reach the bar of quality required.
Precisely - it has to fit the brief and be of sufficient quality. It has to be both, not good quality in isolation.This is meant as a genuine question, what do you think the “brief” is that the images have to meet to be considered for an FPI?
I think this was all covered at the beginning of this thread, Tim, to be honest. Most people who have been on the site for a few years have a very good idea of what will and won’t make it to an FPI just by looking. Personally, I think I’m pretty good at spotting images that will make it to the front page. They stand out in quality above the norm, show inspiration or uniqueness, and have a thumbnail that acts like clickbait, begging the viewer to click on it. In brief.
But you know that, your own inspirational images have got plenty i believe and rightly so......
Simon Pole said, 1734304033
MaristarOxley said
I always find it interesting re them promoting the platform, that their IG account is nothing like the FPIs 😀
FPI, Front Page Image, images for the front page of the site, what you first see when you visit the site unlogged in, it is what it says...
I rarely use IG, so I don't really know what is posted there, that place is junk, anyway, you see everything you're not interested in and have to go hunting for what you actually want to see, that's social media for you, if it's free, you are the product! ;)
FPIs are posted to the PP Faceache account.
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