When you say you don't care, do you really mean it?

 

Thru the looking glass Photography said, 1734273064

Yup, i really dont care.

I've seen dust spot riddled photos on here getting one, but i tracked a pregnant Cheetah, and got her to look at me directly without breaking stride. If i say so myself, it was quite a picture and included the story behind getting that shot, but.................. nothing.

Yes i see the same old waterfall, hand to face pics (god knows my profile has them too), but they seem to get the plaudits.

So i'm not giving one (a damn), any more.

If it happens, M-eh!, if it doesnt happen, then..... M-eh, i lose no sleep over it.

ANDY00 said, 1734273108

Russ Freeman said

ANDY00 said

Russ Freeman said

There is a rule, which has been around for a very long time, that means someone tagged in an FPI cannot be tagged in another for 50 hours + (a random number between 0 and 24), so the earliest someone can be tagged in an FPI is 50 hours after their last one.


Ah but they can end up on FPI's at same time ? genuine question 

If you are awarded (:-p) an FPI right now, you cannot be tagged in another for 50+ hours.


I reported an image some time ago (the same image) on FPI twice and model and photographer tagged on both yet both on front page only few pictures between them so im confused how this could happen, maybe im not understanding something.

Lenswonder said, 1734273564

ANDY00 different tags or none , why would you bother reporting that ?

Sometimes elvs think both profiles deserve the FPI and allow it.

Edited by Lenswonder

Russ Freeman (staff) said, 1734273560

ANDY00 said

Russ Freeman said

ANDY00 said

Russ Freeman said

There is a rule, which has been around for a very long time, that means someone tagged in an FPI cannot be tagged in another for 50 hours + (a random number between 0 and 24), so the earliest someone can be tagged in an FPI is 50 hours after their last one.


Ah but they can end up on FPI's at same time ? genuine question 

If you are awarded (:-p) an FPI right now, you cannot be tagged in another for 50+ hours.


I reported an image some time ago (the same image) on FPI twice and model and photographer tagged on both yet both on front page only few pictures between them so im confused how this could happen, maybe im not understanding something.

The same image was uploaded by different creatives, awarded FPI status 69 hours apart. 

ANDY00 said, 1734274055

Russ Freeman said

ANDY00 said

Russ Freeman said

ANDY00 said

Russ Freeman said

There is a rule, which has been around for a very long time, that means someone tagged in an FPI cannot be tagged in another for 50 hours + (a random number between 0 and 24), so the earliest someone can be tagged in an FPI is 50 hours after their last one.


Ah but they can end up on FPI's at same time ? genuine question 

If you are awarded (:-p) an FPI right now, you cannot be tagged in another for 50+ hours.


I reported an image some time ago (the same image) on FPI twice and model and photographer tagged on both yet both on front page only few pictures between them so im confused how this could happen, maybe im not understanding something.

The same image was uploaded by different creatives, awarded FPI status 69 hours apart. 


It seems very unlikely that the images would appear on the landing page at the same time if they were 69 hours apart, but I don’t want to argue—you know the code better than I do. I remember the two images being just a few squares apart, which is how I noticed it. I honestly thought it was a glitch and raised a ticket to let you know at the time.

Anyway sorry op for sidetracking your post a little - my fault


Edited by ANDY00

Russ Freeman (staff) said, 1734274497

I dislike guessing, and I am lazy, so I queried the DB and got the DB server to calculate the time difference between the two images you reported in May.


ANDY00 said, 1734274729

Russ Freeman said

I dislike guessing, and I am lazy, so I queried the DB and got the DB server to calculate the time difference between the two images you reported in May.


honestly thought the images on FPI moved much faster than that, but as i said you know better and as ive said i have zero issue with FPI system...

JPea said, 1734275681

One interesting but trivial feature of this discussion is the large variation in what people consider to be an outstanding photographic image.

CalmNudes said, 1734276361

Orson Carter said

MaristarOxley said

CalmNudes

Quote:

"You may have your feet firmly planted on the ground, not believe your own publicity all of that.

But... when I pulled the stats a few days ago on any visit to the first FPI page in the last year there was 21% chance of finding a picture from your portfolio there (and that excludes your tags in other ports; this isn't your best year, and your not top of the tree - there's someone with a 47% chance)"

We are not in control of the statistics on here. If Orson received many FPIs, he has been rewarded with them by other people and not himself. He can very much, not care whether he's receiving them or not. If he is actively suggesting himself for them, whilst saying he doesn't want them, well that's going to be contradictory.


Marista - Please may I set the record straight for once and for all... I have NEVER said that I do not care about FPIs. That's something that a certain other poster attributed to me. As I have said on this thread, I think people are wrong to regard them as an award for some form of photographic excellence. But I have also said - probably more than once - that FPIs are very useful in that they bring some extra traffic to one's profile for a little while. That's got to be good, so I do care about them.   

I'm going to let the matter rest there. I realise that I may have opened the door for a lengthy essay from elsewhere, but I do not want to be the main culprit for taking over your thread. 

Edited by Orson Carter


OK (a) I'm going to apologise for getting up your nose. 

(b) Here's what you said, that I jumped on 

Orson Carter said 

 Yes, I do care about FPIs 
 ... 
 
But I do not care about any perceived status that goes with them. To me, the notion that an FPI gives one some sort of status is a load of spherical objects.    

 People want them for the perceived status, your perceived status is affected by the number you have. That notion you speak of is one that on a person with an abundance can have.  

After that there seems to have been a lot of everyone interpreting what was said in ways that weren't meant. 

MaristarOxley    Orson has earned those FPIs. No grumbles here about either there being a long tail distribution (it's inevitable, no point in liking or hating it) or that Orson has done well (As I've said, if it were left to me a good many of his which aren't currently sporting rosettes would have them.) 
But a person who is known to have a lot of anything that is valued by others talking down its value got me on my hobby horse.
To use the money analogy again, imagine a nice chap who through hard work, saving, shrewd investment and a bit of luck now sits on a retirement fund of a few million. Few of us would begrudge them the money, but "Money doesn't really matter" talk from them would get "Well you can say that, you've got loads". 

Probably time for me to send that hobby horse to the stable. Pax Orson. 



DaveEd said, 1734276712

It's always nice, whether you care or not. Who doesn't like a 'well done' every now and then..

Lenswonder said, 1734278127

The only interesting thing about the thread is some who cause the biggest noise about it claim to not care. That's me included , though my past noise was more about the fairness within the process which many have done.

Tim Pile said, 1734278586

JPea said

One interesting but trivial feature of this discussion is the large variation in what people consider to be an outstanding photographic image.

There is a huge variation of quality of images on here, some photographers realise this and make a concerted effort to improve their photography, others are quite happy with the images they produce and just want to enjoy themselves, and there’s nothing wrong with that.

I often click on the profile of photographers complaining about FPIs and see images with issues in composition, lighting and model poses, but these photographers never seem to ask for a portfolio review to see how they could improve, and unsolicited critique is quite rightly not allowed. If they are happy with their images, then that’s fine. The improvements in my photography have largely been from getting advice and critique from photographers who I admire.


gjp said, 1734290997

Having recently received a FPI (3 ish days ago), and being one of those people lucky enough to have a decent number of them, I thought I would share the impact it had on me

  • Made my smile and happier when I got the notification (short term dopamine hit)
  • 74 extra loves
  • 4 kind comments on the image
  • 2 follows
  • No extra requests for shoots

This is why I say they are nice to have, but don’t really make any major difference to my PP existence 

MaristarOxley said, 1734292442

JPea

Well, that's for another group post 😉😬

MaristarOxley said, 1734292617

gjp

Thank you for sharing your experience this way 👍🏽👍🏽