Models fees for different levels

I've been in multiple minds about what I should do around this especially now I'm starting to work up to concealed nude. Should I be charging the same for portraits and a situation where I am nude, vulnerable and trusting people to respect my boundaries on what cannot be captured? But should I determine my worth based off parts of my body rather than the years of experience now and hard work I put in?

It's a difficult one. I don't want to lose work for those who only want to shoot my lower levels but cannot afford the rate that encompasses the highest

Alyssa Taylor said

I've been in multiple minds about what I should do around this especially now I'm starting to work up to concealed nude. Should I be charging the same for portraits and a situation where I am nude, vulnerable and trusting people to respect my boundaries on what cannot be captured? But should I determine my worth based off parts of my body rather than the years of experience now and hard work I put in?

It's a difficult one. I don't want to lose work for those who only want to shoot my lower levels but cannot afford the rate that encompasses the highest

To me you have answered your own question and therefore tiered levels might well work for you.

As the others have said before me. Because they can. Supply and demand. They won’t charge the same for implied fashion and the same again for open leg with toys.

If you don’t like their rates of rate, for this or for that, then don’t book them. Just block them and choose another model, there are plenty on here.

And I seem to remember that this subject didn’t go down too well with the replies back last time. Or the other times before that.

Alyssa Taylor said

I've been in multiple minds about what I should do around this especially now I'm starting to work up to concealed nude. Should I be charging the same for portraits and a situation where I am nude, vulnerable and trusting people to respect my boundaries on what cannot be captured? But should I determine my worth based off parts of my body rather than the years of experience now and hard work I put in?

It's a difficult one. I don't want to lose work for those who only want to shoot my lower levels but cannot afford the rate that encompasses the highest

I haven't a clue how it would work out in practice (you might want to ask experienced models about it), but you could always have a pricing structure that says, in effect, here's a headline hourly rate that you quote publicly (say, for the sake of argument, £50ph) but you add that you'll price each job individually based on factors like shoot length, distance, levels and whether the project sounds like it'd benefit your portfolio, and then you can discount down from the basic rate for multiple hours, interesting location or styling, etc, etc.

Supply and Demand.  See the other thread about how a model has found it hard to get work since dropping her levels.

I'd personally prefer a flat rate, keep it simple: "this is what it's gonna cost you."  But I get why that doesn't happen.

That's just one way of looking at it. The other way is that if you just want fashion or portraits or similar, you are getting a discount on potentially a higher flat rate fee! I don't really mind as long as what I am paying represents value to what I am going to shoot. This question comes up every few months on here. 

Because it works for some.

Shoot and travel time has nothing to do with their rates so not sure why that's mentioned.

There is differential pricing for all sorts of sectors, not just modelling. Some models also charge more if there is potentially a commercial element to the images, so it's not just about levels. 

Maybe having their boobs, bums and other bits permanently on line until the end of time, is worth more to them than £20 per hour?

John Moore Creative Photography said

Can I please have thoughts on why models charge different fees for different levels?

Presumably to maximise potential earnings. Seems eminently sensible to me. Does it not to you?

Hair??

This is an FAQ and deserves summarising, if it hasn't already.

It also might deserve an actual count of a sample.

It's just the way it is and how one (individual photographer) responds is their policy.

My personal policy is that I am paying a person for their skill level and time, the quantity of clothing- or not is irrelevant to me.

When I first started model photography ( a while ago) the 'menu' pricing scheme was probably the norm, but I rapidly became tired of the "supermarket checkout" totting up at the end of a shoot especially when it started becoming 'debatable.'

I now only work on an agreed total fee for a shoot and in denominations of half or full day (4-8 hours).

I would say that the one rate covers all up to the maximum level is best for a model as it then stops any confusion and the I'm having a hour of lingerie and an hour of art nude, which then blurs and usually ends up with more than an hour of art nude.

From a studio point of view its also easier to sell studio day slots at a fixed rate to cover up to level.

I don't know why this is even a question. I'm not a model but in less than 30 seconds of thought I can come up with:

Supply and demand (i) - fewer models do ,higher, levels (a term which is a clue in itself) therefore scarcity drives up prices.

Supply and demand (ii) - more photographers will want to shoot at these 'higher' levels therefore demand drives up prices.

Supply and demand (iii) - as models who work at these levels will do a lot of similar shoots, in the vast majority of cases all they are getting out of the shoot is the payment. No new experiences, no shots that are likely to replace what is already in their portfolio, no creative fulfilment.

Preparation - I would suspect that revealing shoots require a greater degree of pre-shoot discipline and/or personal preparation. 

Risk - some people have quite archaic views about revealing photos (e.g. not being able to distinguish art from pornography) and so certain shoots have more of an inherent risk of damage to reputation, loss of employment, teasing of family members, online harassment etc. 

Enjoyment - I suspect that most people are more comfortable working with clothes on that without, particularly if that work involves being in an enclosed space with a complete stranger.

I don't know how accurate my guesses are, and I imagine there are other reasons too, but to me it is completely understandable why some models have tiered prices.