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The Ghost said, 1734597437

Sensual Art said

The Ghost said

Sensual Art said

JME Studios models who sell such content have told me that it's precisely because the pictures they shoot of themselves are a bit less polished and a bit more "real" that they sell so well.

Exactly, OnlyFans is not modelling, it’s exploiting potential stalkers for profit.

As to why those magazines died out, it was never about what you saw but who and the supply of significant people just dried up.

Characterising their target audience as "potential stalkers" is, I suggest, not only unkind, it's also wholly inaccurate.  The models are able to attract members from anywhere in the world, not just their locality, and it fully allows for those with niche interests and tastes to find someone who meets them.

As to the word exploit, it's notable that the magazines exploited the models just as much as the buyers of the magazines, and OnlyFans (and its ilk) have democratised that to a significant extent.  Sure, the platforms make a healthy profit from hosting the content and taking a cut of the money, but there is more competition between similar sites, so content producers get a choice of where to show and sell their content.

If you can think of a better term for the customers then by all means I would use it but the personality type is on that spectrum. Why do you think some models are alarmed by the prospect of photographers also being OF subscribers?

As I understand it, a ridiculous portion of the job of being successful there is replying to DMs, actual content production can be a small fraction and ideally needs to be driven by customer requests. I saw an interview with one of the big names from the US where she pointed out that most guys don’t have the imagination to request something too degrading, instead they get off on the idea of having an attractive woman do exactly what they command.

Gothic Image said, 1734598379

JME Studios said

Gothic Image I've seen enough Insta stories. It just seems odd that they wouldn't let a photographer shoot them and get some nice properly edited images to sell for a much higher price than a smartphone set, with a ring light if you're lucky?


I don't think it's odd at all.  I understand that one of the attractions for models is not having to deal with some random bloke with (possibly) ulterior motives?

MarcAyresPhoto said, 1734600586

Just started watching it this morning, quite a throwback on many things. It's showing how society has changed but also in a way what we have lost. 

PixelSensation said, 1734601443

Sensual Art AHH... The obvious 😁

GDSandy Photography said, 1734601795

Sensual Art said

JME Studios models who sell such content have told me that it's precisely because the pictures they shoot of themselves are a bit less polished and a bit more "real" that they sell so well.

It makes them seem more personal.  Proving that they are indeed wank fodder rather than wank fodder disguised as art - lol. Only kidding.  

I was never a fan of Nuts and Zoo.  FHM though was well shot.  I don't remember Loaded.  


Social media meant that there was too much pressure raised by the claque and people started to feel embarrassed about purchasing them or being associated with them.  Before the days of Social Media, Claire Short ran a campaign to ban page 3.  It got nowhere. - In fact when ITN covered the story, I was the photographer they filmed as part of the background.  I can't remember which page 3 girls I was "shooting".  The director was after some Michelangelo Antonioni / David Hemming action and instruction whereas I simply asked if we could have a little hair spray to encourage the "cold look".  :-)



Huw said, 1734605527

The Ghost better term? Wankers? ;)

GDSandy Photography said, 1734605811

The Ghost said

Sensual Art said

The Ghost said

Sensual Art said

JME Studios models who sell such content have told me that it's precisely because the pictures they shoot of themselves are a bit less polished and a bit more "real" that they sell so well.

Exactly, OnlyFans is not modelling, it’s exploiting potential stalkers for profit.

As to why those magazines died out, it was never about what you saw but who and the supply of significant people just dried up.

Characterising their target audience as "potential stalkers" is, I suggest, not only unkind, it's also wholly inaccurate.  The models are able to attract members from anywhere in the world, not just their locality, and it fully allows for those with niche interests and tastes to find someone who meets them.

As to the word exploit, it's notable that the magazines exploited the models just as much as the buyers of the magazines, and OnlyFans (and its ilk) have democratised that to a significant extent.  Sure, the platforms make a healthy profit from hosting the content and taking a cut of the money, but there is more competition between similar sites, so content producers get a choice of where to show and sell their content.

If you can think of a better term for the customers then by all means I would use it but the personality type is on that spectrum. Why do you think some models are alarmed by the prospect of photographers also being OF subscribers?

As I understand it, a ridiculous portion of the job of being successful there is replying to DMs, actual content production can be a small fraction and ideally needs to be driven by customer requests. I saw an interview with one of the big names from the US where she pointed out that most guys don’t have the imagination to request something too degrading, instead they get off on the idea of having an attractive woman do exactly what they command.


The successful ones used to use agency people to do this.  Now the more technologically aware are trying AI.


https://www.vice.com/en/article/onlyfans-models-are-usuing-ai-chatbots-to-talk-dirty-for-them/#:~:text=OnlyFans%20creators%20have%20turned%20to,conversation%20with%20a%20real%20person.




Huw said, 1734608804

Theoretically then, I could create an AI glamour model to do the wiggling, and AI to do the chat as well?

The days of OF as a model income source may be numbered.

Edited by Huw

Gothic Image said, 1734611587

Huw said

Theoretically then, I could create an AI glamour model to do the wiggling, and AI to do the chat as well?

The days of OF as a model income source may be numbered.

Edited by Huw


There seem to be a number of AI "models" on Instagram that people interact with as though they are real, so I don't think that's too far-fetched.

JME Studios said, 1734611891

Huw every ad Meta is throwing me, without any exception whatsoever, are "AI Girlfriend" apps. And they're all awful. They seem exploitative. For me.

As for replying to DMs, that's gotta be interesting given how Comms on here can be like pulling teeth. 😂

It's easy for me to say because OF has basically killed the Internet modelling scene but it isn't modelling. I'm not sure what it is but it isn't modelling .

Sandra Blu said, 1734631399

JME Studios it IS modelling, ultimately these women are coming up with poses, backgrounds, props, make up and all sorts of ideas to please the 'male gaze', subscribers and fatten their own bank account (not that I see anything wrong). It may not be your 'choice of modelling', but it's THEIRS, still modelling.