Best Photographers on Purpleport

Why do we have to have people who are better than each other?

SimonL said

A site like this is probably more representative of who has the most time to commit to a hobby.

The 'Best' are out in the real world and rarely here. I rarely get looked at here, get even less likes on images but I've made plenty of hard earned cash in the real world from professional clients.

My idea of 'Best' V Other peoples 'Best' will always differ wildly - that's the joy of creative pursuits. There's images that get FPIs and thousands more that are technically better images, but that don't get to ever see an FPI because the creator isn't an active forum member or the image doesn't suit the narrative of publicising the site (which is the essence of the FPI).

What's your definition of 'Best'? 

Hi Simon, It's not my definition I am looking to view, it's Purpleport's if you see the beginning of this thread. I would like a heads up on all of the FPI's but rankings in order would work for me :-)

Margo Jost said

Why do we have to have people who are better than each other?

Because it's a fact of life - I can't run as fast as Ustain Bolt!

Sensual Art said

SimonL said

What's your definition of 'Best'? 

I think the OP covered that sufficiently in the initial post:

tandi said

I'm new so if anyone can help, I love to know if there is anyway to see who the Best Photographers in rankings order, whether that's based upon FPI or Loves?

Pretty simple metrics, though I'd dispute the choice of the word "best" for them.

Yes, in hindsight the word best may have been a faux Par on my behalf. Probably I would change this to "The Most FPI's or Loves for Photographer or Model", but without debate and reflection there is no meaning to life, I'm open to a better definition, I believe I have indicated what I truly expected from seeing such data in this tread :-)

So where are the cool new photographers like onebrightspark?

FPIs aren't necessarily "what purpleport elves think are the best" - it would be more accurate to say they are "what purpleport elves think are the best *out of those images which they have seen*"

Gothic Image but art is subjective. It's not the same as someone who is fitter than someone else.

Someones miracle shot that just got an FPI is someone else's shit.

It's impossible to say who is the "best" in art. And quite philistine in approach. Art is fluid and open to interpretation.

Gothic Image said

Margo Jost said

Why do we have to have people who are better than each other?

Because it's a fact of life - I can't run as fast as Ustain Bolt!

Sounds like some toilet cleaner is needed haha

It would be interesting to know how these things are measured. I am on the third page for the models, and there are better models than me lower down on the lists.

Unfocussed Mike said

Stanmore said

Using FPI’s to ‘gauge’ members of PP seems plausible enough when viewed from within the PP bubble. What I mean is that if you’re purely focussed on gaining PP FPI’s, then if you could access such a ‘charts’ list, you could find the photographers to approach and the models to ‘study’. 

But be clear that PP is a little bubble in the big boiling photographic cauldron. When I view the FPI’s, the majority come across as great examples of what makes a deeply cliched and poorly conceived and/or executed photograph. I ‘love’ the ones I genuinely think are actually great; most days that’s none of them. I’m not being snotty or obtuse; in my experience the typical FPI has nothing to interest those within the commercial, editorial or art sectors of photography, and most would be viewed as as flawed and irrelevant in one or more ways by those sectors.

In lieu of having an actual FPI charts list, you could begin to create collections of images by photographers and models that you admire, or you find have lots of FPI’s. Most photos have a ‘Collect’ button above them that you can use to add them into collections you personally curate. Each collection can be made public or kept private. Over time you could create your own ‘chart’ lists this way. 

It's well documented that I don't often agree with you, but yes, to all of this.

The FPI is a community reward that in large part concentrates and propagates a self-reinforcing community aesthetic, and rarely chooses in a way that confounds it. If you like that style and you're happy working in it, great. If you don't: also great.

I've stopped looking at them as a rule, though I have recently got back to recommending photos that do confound that aesthetic.

Hi Mike, I find myself having a number of hours free on Friday 13th, which is historically an unlucky day for some, but I still believe in the FPI award system hopefully I haven't bought bad luck to it. It has some great content and I try to view new content and submit the ones I believe are worthy, don't you :-)

RAWing Waves lol, I missed that 🙈 that's funny 😄

Gerry99111 said

Gothic Image said

tandi said

Gothic Image said

Tabitha Boydell said

I am sure someone wrote a script (or did it manually) that listed those who had the most FPIs on the site

No clue how to find it now though. It was a forum thread

It should be a pretty simple query if you had direct access to the PP database.  I think you'd probably divide the number of FPIs by the number of years membership though, to level the playing field?

I hadn't given it much thought but as I am on the red wine now still waiting for that BackUP :-( An average of membership years, number of images and FPI's could do it. Lets face it someone who had been a member for 15 years, had a ten thousand images, but only 5 FPI's may not be so deserving of a ranking of someone who had been a member for 1 year and had 20 images and 2 FPI's. 

Yes, that's sort of where I was going ...

Lol, unless they deleted them or stripped the badge ;)

If people want formulas like that, then so be it, it is probably self fulfilling and will guarantee you only see what all the other people who live in silos see. A bit like those "Top 10 travel books" that list all the places every one else goes to and therefore makes them the worst 10 places to visit.

If the site is going to start producing league tables, as with all things, there should be an opt out button as well so those that don't wish to take part or think the concept is flawed don't have their profiles appear anywhere or a ridiculous score tagged on their profile they don't have a need for

Gerry I love your fox photo, we have 4 who come to the garden and we try to feed and water them and the other wildlife. I had my NSFW filter turned on, but turned it off for you. Some really nice work, I would swet the FPI's, I have no hope in getting one at my age, just try and enjoy other artists work and as my mothering law always used to say, "dance the beat of your own drum"

tandi said

Unfocussed Mike said

Stanmore said

Using FPI’s to ‘gauge’ members of PP seems plausible enough when viewed from within the PP bubble. What I mean is that if you’re purely focussed on gaining PP FPI’s, then if you could access such a ‘charts’ list, you could find the photographers to approach and the models to ‘study’. 

But be clear that PP is a little bubble in the big boiling photographic cauldron. When I view the FPI’s, the majority come across as great examples of what makes a deeply cliched and poorly conceived and/or executed photograph. I ‘love’ the ones I genuinely think are actually great; most days that’s none of them. I’m not being snotty or obtuse; in my experience the typical FPI has nothing to interest those within the commercial, editorial or art sectors of photography, and most would be viewed as as flawed and irrelevant in one or more ways by those sectors.

In lieu of having an actual FPI charts list, you could begin to create collections of images by photographers and models that you admire, or you find have lots of FPI’s. Most photos have a ‘Collect’ button above them that you can use to add them into collections you personally curate. Each collection can be made public or kept private. Over time you could create your own ‘chart’ lists this way. 

It's well documented that I don't often agree with you, but yes, to all of this.

The FPI is a community reward that in large part concentrates and propagates a self-reinforcing community aesthetic, and rarely chooses in a way that confounds it. If you like that style and you're happy working in it, great. If you don't: also great.

I've stopped looking at them as a rule, though I have recently got back to recommending photos that do confound that aesthetic.

Hi Mike, I find myself having a number of hours free on Friday 13th, which is historically an unlucky day for some, but I still believe in the FPI award system hopefully I haven't bought bad luck to it. It has some great content and I try to view new content and submit the ones I believe are worthy, don't you :-)

I don't view them often. I do occasionally suggest something I think other people are likely to have overlooked (e.g. because the model has clothes on)

I think you will find he links on page one are for "prolific" posters or latest posters as although it is subjective, the results do not look like they are based on quality.

Unfocussed Mike said

I don't view them often. I do occasionally suggest something I think other people are likely to have overlooked (e.g. because the model has clothes on)

LOL!  :-)