Best Photographers on Purpleport

Stanmore said

tandi said

Stanmore said

Using FPI’s to ‘gauge’ members of PP seems plausible enough when viewed from within the PP bubble. What I mean is that if you’re purely focussed on gaining PP FPI’s, then if you could access such a ‘charts’ list, you could find the photographers to approach and the models to ‘study’. 

But be clear that PP is a little bubble in the big boiling photographic cauldron. When I view the FPI’s, the majority come across as great examples of what makes a deeply cliched and poorly conceived and/or executed photograph. I ‘love’ the ones I genuinely think are actually great; most days that’s none of them. I’m not being snotty or obtuse; in my experience the typical FPI has nothing to interest those within the commercial, editorial or art sectors of photography, and most would be viewed as as flawed and irrelevant in one or more ways by those sectors.

In lieu of having an actual FPI charts list, you could begin to create collections of images by photographers and models that you admire, or you find have lots of FPI’s. Most photos have a ‘Collect’ button above them that you can use to add them into collections you personally curate. Each collection can be made public or kept private. Over time you could create your own ‘chart’ lists this way. 

Your post are always coherent and succinctly put and I appreciate the sentiment. I wouldn't feel comfortable collecting other peoples work/copyright but I do enjoy seeing other creative works.

My husband and I have always been in Art in one way or another and loved Art since we met 34 years ago, it is what binds us together. Neither my husband or I look at an FPI and begin by being critical over lighting, composition, posing, makeup, set design or any other minor details, some of the best photography in my opinion has been simple, basic, thought provoking, something that makes you think about the artwork, not in a professional way applying all the rules of lighting, posing and composition, but freeing yourself from that to just enjoy something original.

PP collections are like ‘Popular Images’ or ‘FPI’s’ … they only exist whilst you’re logged into this site, not on your hard drive or some other interweb domain. Every PP user can exclude their images for being added to collections. Most do not. Suggestion: Create a private collection. Name it ‘Uppity Togs’ maybe. You can then with full ‘approval’ add one of my images to pop your PP collection cherry.

hmmm, I adding all of your images to that "Uppity Togs" Album because I have a weird sense of humour

You are probably wondering what happened to my day job... A 200GB backup is taking me forever and failed last night...

I have loads of computer time to go :-)

This post is really raising my Profile views

tandi said

Gothic Image said

The obvious question is "what do you mean by best"? Surely it's purely subjective, as suggested above?  So perhaps a subsidiary question is "why do you want to know"?

To answer your question FPI's are chosen by Purpleport Staff and the PPCT as stated in the FPI information, which are then published prominently on Purpleport and awarded an FPI badge. Many models and photographers display proudly their FPI's which judges their creativity to be worthy of the award.

Obviously anyone who has received such an award has demonstrated their photographic or modelling skills, therefore I would liked to have seen who has been given the award in rankings order and filtered by SFW or NSFW rather than search though literally 1000's of photographers and models :-)

Yes photography and modelling is subjective to the individual and therefore we may not love every single FPI, but everyone can appreciate that Purpleport has gone to the trouble of selecting them for us to view. I can understand that some people have mentioned that loves are unfair because they are follower based, but to get 2000 followers, my guess is that those models and photographers are doing something right :-)

Why did I ask the question? It is as simple as finding other creatives works that I can appreciate, love, like and follow 

Thanks tandi - that makes sense, even if this is (as usual) going off-topic and turning into yet another discussion on the whys and wherefores of FPIs.  I can see your logic, and it's a pretty good place to start provided your bear in mind the purpose of FPIs.  :-)

tandi said
In a previous life I was an Oracle Database engineer/administrator and Unix, Novell and Windows Systems engineer, I wouldn't ask if I knew it would take more than an hour to code :-)

Oh I mean absolutely, I'm not saying that there isn't a way to mathematically rank photographers based on certain criteria, I'm merely suggesting that the results would be largely irrelevant as there are no metrics by which you could actually measure the ability and/or value of a photographer based on available data. The code/math you could do, the results would just be nonsense.

Perhaps though if you'd like to specifically suggest there should be a way to rank photographers on the website then a post on the Bugs, Errors and Suggestions group might be an idea to bring it to Russ's attention?

Gothic Image said

tandi said

Gothic Image said

The obvious question is "what do you mean by best"? Surely it's purely subjective, as suggested above?  So perhaps a subsidiary question is "why do you want to know"?

To answer your question FPI's are chosen by Purpleport Staff and the PPCT as stated in the FPI information, which are then published prominently on Purpleport and awarded an FPI badge. Many models and photographers display proudly their FPI's which judges their creativity to be worthy of the award.

Obviously anyone who has received such an award has demonstrated their photographic or modelling skills, therefore I would liked to have seen who has been given the award in rankings order and filtered by SFW or NSFW rather than search though literally 1000's of photographers and models :-)

Yes photography and modelling is subjective to the individual and therefore we may not love every single FPI, but everyone can appreciate that Purpleport has gone to the trouble of selecting them for us to view. I can understand that some people have mentioned that loves are unfair because they are follower based, but to get 2000 followers, my guess is that those models and photographers are doing something right :-)

Why did I ask the question? It is as simple as finding other creatives works that I can appreciate, love, like and follow 

Thanks tandi - that makes sense, even if this is (as usual) going off-topic and turning into yet another discussion on the whys and wherefores of FPIs.  I can see your logic, and it's a pretty good place to start provided your bear in mind the purpose of FPIs.  :-)

OMG, I love that PINK TANK on your profile!!!!

Hope you don't mind a follow!

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tandi said

OMG, I love that PINK TANK on your profile!!!!

Standard disclaimer - it's not a tank, it's a self-propelled gun, which is different.  I hired that one in but I've now got one of my own - which is green!  :-)

I think FPIs can be a good starting point to go and visit portfolios, however, as others have said you may miss some great portfolios that way

From my own perspective I am lucky enough to have 78 FPIs, but wouldn’t class myself as one of the best on here

Also, a number of what I consider my best images aren’t FPIs

Cosographer said

tandi said
In a previous life I was an Oracle Database engineer/administrator and Unix, Novell and Windows Systems engineer, I wouldn't ask if I knew it would take more than an hour to code :-)

Oh I mean absolutely, I'm not saying that there isn't a way to mathematically rank photographers based on certain criteria, I'm merely suggesting that the results would be largely irrelevant as there are no metrics by which you could actually measure the ability and/or value of a photographer based on available data. The code/math you could do, the results would just be nonsense.

Perhaps though if you'd like to specifically suggest there should be a way to rank photographers on the website then a post on the Bugs, Errors and Suggestions group might be an idea to bring it to Russ's attention?

I don't think that's a good idea submitting a ranking process even though technically by issuing awards and loves there is already on in place, people would be seriously upset. I have only asked if there is a way to currently view the data and most people think that is irrelevant?

That said, I love the discussion on here, people are passionate and give honest feedback.

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gjp said

I think FPIs can be a good starting point to go and visit portfolios, however, as others have said you may miss some great portfolios that way

From my own perspective I am lucky enough to have 78 FPIs, but wouldn’t class myself as one of the best on here

Also, a number of what I consider my best images aren’t FPIs

Hope you don't mind a follow :-)

tandi said

I don't think that's a good idea submitting a ranking process even though technically by issuing awards and loves there is already on in place, people would be seriously upset. I have only asked if there is a way to currently view the data and most people think that is irrelevant?

That said, I love the discussion on here, people are passionate and give honest feedback.

It's only irrelevant as the results wouldn't be a reflection on who "the best photographers" are, which is what you'd posited was the objective of seeing the rankings based on the values you'd mentioned.

It could also be reasonably argued that the number of loves/FPIs a photographer has is more a measure of popularity than ability, which further skews the data you're suggesting you'd like to see. And then there's the subject matter, or the models that the photographers work with - it might be reasonably argued that images that are uploaded by photographers get better engagement based on the popularity/recognition of the models they work with. None of which are complaints as this is just human nature, but it also feeds into the validity of the findings of metric or math based ranking systems.

Tabitha Boydell said

I am sure someone wrote a script (or did it manually) that listed those who had the most FPIs on the site

No clue how to find it now though. It was a forum thread

It should be a pretty simple query if you had direct access to the PP database.  I think you'd probably divide the number of FPIs by the number of years membership though, to level the playing field?

indemnity said

 Your search is over. :) 

Fantastic, you got a follow :-)

Gothic Image yes I was thinking that. And also take into account when the site was new, they were easier to get

Gothic Image said

Tabitha Boydell said

I am sure someone wrote a script (or did it manually) that listed those who had the most FPIs on the site

No clue how to find it now though. It was a forum thread

It should be a pretty simple query if you had direct access to the PP database.  I think you'd probably divide the number of FPIs by the number of years membership though, to level the playing field?

I hadn't given it much thought but as I am on the red wine now still waiting for that BackUP :-( An average of membership years, number of images and FPI's could do it. Lets face it someone who had been a member for 15 years, had a ten thousand images, but only 5 FPI's may not be so deserving of a ranking of someone who had been a member for 1 year and had 20 images and 2 FPI's. 

On my 2nd glass of wine, someone please take my keys off me, oh no don't worry I am at home already :-)

I reckon the ‘best’ photographers probably don’t use the forums…

…. I quit!

Oh, too late? Sucks to be me!