Plagiarism isn’t a crime in photography

There will probably be a national shortage of semi skimmed now you've posted that. Ive missed this trend! 

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Perception said

It would be easy to kinda rubbish the exact situation here as being plagiarism, but it does make me think in more complex situations; what is plagiarism and what isn't. Flour shots are something that that spring to mind as I remember years ago somebody kind of come to mini fame because of them (ive no idea if they where the first), but now everybody's doing them and probably people never consider that copying, and its such a copied thing it would be even hard to find who even started it now. But even "model shots with flour being flung about" is an idea, but its *maybe not specific and unique enough to be concerned about if your also wanting to do your own take on "model shots with flour being flung about"

I think it needs to be quite an iconic and specific photograph before id worry im copying, kind of like Man Rays Kiki de Montparnasse as an extreme example. Ive no idea where the line is between something that's so general and with little noticable unique take on the subject to something that is very specific and unique and really shouldn't be copied an passed off as your own. 

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Wasn't there an FPI a while ago that was essentially a copy of the Athena tennis girl poster?  Where does pastiche end and plagiarism begin?

Gothic Image said

Perception said

It would be easy to kinda rubbish the exact situation here as being plagiarism, but it does make me think in more complex situations; what is plagiarism and what isn't. Flour shots are something that that spring to mind as I remember years ago somebody kind of come to mini fame because of them (ive no idea if they where the first), but now everybody's doing them and probably people never consider that copying, and its such a copied thing it would be even hard to find who even started it now. But even "model shots with flour being flung about" is an idea, but its *maybe not specific and unique enough to be concerned about if your also wanting to do your own take on "model shots with flour being flung about"

I think it needs to be quite an iconic and specific photograph before id worry im copying, kind of like Man Rays Kiki de Montparnasse as an extreme example. Ive no idea where the line is between something that's so general and with little noticable unique take on the subject to something that is very specific and unique and really shouldn't be copied an passed off as your own. 

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Wasn't there an FPI a while ago that was essentially a copy of the Athena tennis girl poster?  Where does pastiche end and plagiarism begin?

yeah, the more you think of it the more complex I think it could be. A mini tangent but I was working at company that designed the Evoque 4x4.  and it was completely ripped off by a company called Land wind in china. But they had to send the design director to court in china to explain about design and the uniqueness of the design to the Chinese court. So im thinknng if photography works in similar lines, you'd have to persuade others of the uniqueness of the item, there may be no clear lines in the sand If anybody ever was to take some kind of action. 

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Yet from this angle it looks completely different...

Its like the lone tree in Snowdonia.

Some mornings theres big queue to shoot the same tree.

Gerry99111 said

https://www.google.com/search?q=Llanwrst%2C+Conwy&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwi7p9HfwJL7AhVPricCHS_YA24Q2-cCegQIABAA&oq=Llanwrst%2C+Conwy&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQAzIJCAAQgAQQChAYOgcIABCxAxBDOgUIABCABDoECAAQQzoICAAQgAQQsQM6CAgAELEDEIMBOgQIIxAnOgsIABCABBCxAxCDAToHCCMQ6gIQJ1CjEFjn_QFg9IECaAZwAHgAgAFWiAHlDJIBAjIymAEAoAEBqgELZ3dzLXdpei1pbWewAQrAAQE&sclient=img&ei=O_ZjY_udGs_cnsEPr7CP8AY&bih=721&biw=1536

Just typed in Llanwrst, Conwy in google

Plagiarism LoL

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That cottage is a cafe.

Ive got some images of that place taken from the same angle... great minds work alike. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

sd photography54 said

Its like the lone tree in Snowdonia.

Some mornings theres big queue to shoot the same tree.

There are numerous instances of that tree posted on PP, some with models and others without. Both FPIs and less celebrated imagery.

FiL said

sd photography54 said

Its like the lone tree in Snowdonia.

Some mornings theres big queue to shoot the same tree.

There are numerous instances of that tree posted on PP, some with models and others without. Both FPIs and less celebrated imagery.

Exactly.

I'm deffo going there next autumn and I'll be shooting it every day as I stop at a caravan site five minutes walk away.

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I remember having an argument with an ex that I refuse to take a photograph of Chesterton windmill, im still keeping true to that! That £@@@?&? Windmill

Guilty. 

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You've got to love the pp forums, I agree this post "needs" to stay for many reasons.

Perception said

I remember having an argument with an ex that I refuse to take a photograph of Chesterton windmill, im still keeping true to that! That £@@@?&? Windmill

Lol. Everything for a reason!

I was once accused of copying a photo of a model I photographed on her apartment balcony.

It was a very narrow balcony with the model at one end and me at the other and I guess she must have done the same pose.

She had the audacity to have the same face on both photos.

Ray Duckworth Photography said

Same venue, but different composition and so I would question plagiarism

And crucially it was you that took your photo - so it was your own work, and you can't by definition plagiarise your own work.