AI

I wonder how much fuss there will be when we get AI 50 or 100 years from now.

Our great-great-great-grandchildren will laugh at how we thought these fancy tools were AI.

Photowallah said

AI is neither intelligent nor our friend, as the recent Brussels 'assisted' suicide case attests. It is programmed by people with limited imagination and experience (believe me, I've worked with them - they don't get out much)

It always makes me laugh that people complain about the way AI systems output text. 

GPT sounds like a college term paper written by a perky, culturally-shallow American 21-year-old with an above-average grasp of grammar who has been through several training courses on how to sound confident and upbeat and sell their skills at an interview. Why? Because those are the people who wrote some of the training answers.

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Russ Freeman said

I wonder how much fuss there will be when we get AI 50 or 100 years from now.

Our great-great-great-grandchildren will laugh at how we thought these fancy tools were AI.

I would genuinely love to see that and what that could do, These things will change the world i think 

Have you ever watched 'Terminator'.....Ai will be the end of the human race as we know it, maybe not in our lifetime but in the distant future.

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Mirror Image'S' said

Have you ever watched 'Terminator'.....Ai will be the end of the human race as we know it, maybe not in our lifetime but in the distant future.

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If current AI technologies are ever given weapons I suspect it will be pretty trivial to get them to shoot themselves. They'd do it confidently and happily, without ever understanding the difference.

Unfocussed Mike said

Mirror Image'S' said

Have you ever watched 'Terminator'.....Ai will be the end of the human race as we know it, maybe not in our lifetime but in the distant future.

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If current AI technologies are ever given weapons I suspect it will be pretty trivial to get them to shoot themselves. They'd do it confidently and happily, without ever understanding the difference.

unfortunately this is already a thing, America has been testing F16 drones controlled by AI pilots that are faster than human pilots and a new sub drone, as i said unfortunately humans always turn intelligence to war 

Perhaps it would be better to think of it as a tool that can be deployed selectively and with intent call it Assisted Intelligence. We have progressed from populating look up tables to using self populating data....at the end of the day its hard to beat shot gunning and hoping something may stick when a truly novel solution is needed - behind the scenes some liked to call it informed guessing. Oh wait that sounds a lot like Ai - Yes but critical subtle difference remains. For the time being at least, I am for using ai as a tool selectively and with a critical mindset.

FlashArt said

Perhaps it would be better to think of it as a tool that can be deployed selectively and with intent call it Assisted Intelligence. We have progressed from populating look up tables to using self populating data....at the end of the day its hard to beat shot gunning and hoping something may stick when a truly novel solution is needed - behind the scenes some liked to call it informed guessing. Oh wait that sounds a lot like Ai - Yes but critical subtle difference remains. For the time being at least, I am for using ai as a tool selectively and with a critical mindset.

Self-populating data, predictive text, learning models, etc., are all complicated ways of describing intelligent software. When you ask me a question, I think through it, draw on my experiences and historical information, and come up with an answer. AI does the same thing. There's nobody behind the curtain. That's intelligence. I'm not saying it's sentient, just that it utilizes an intelligent system to complete the requested action. Now, these systems can see through cameras, hear through mics, and, as shown below,  in some cases now can even walk and physically interact with the world. There's a lot of negativity, but I think these are amazing advances for the world. Russ says generations will make fun of us - Good that's the way it should be, When i tell my youngest about the awesome ZX spectrum 128 k i had he laughs at me, that's how it should be,

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ANDY00 said

FlashArt said

Self-populating data, predictive text, learning models, etc., are all complicated ways of describing intelligent software. When you ask me a question, I think through it, draw on my experiences and historical information, and come up with an answer. AI does the same thing.

No, it doesn't. There may be nobody behind the curtain but you are profoundly (I mean that precisely, not rudely) mischaracterising how GPT works.

It's difficult to get across how it can do what it does without the process you're describing, but it does. There's much less going on than that.

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i see Klaatu landing on a washington baseball diamond, coming to us to try and make us see reason.

AI, will, due to certain agencies with nefarious plans, be trained to learn, and, rather ironically, destroy not only us, but their one time paymasters.

All the air will improve, animals (not seen as a threat) will multiply, water will be clean, no polluting ICE's, no need for war once we have been eradicated. However, if someone has programmed the robots correctly, they will get rid of themselves too.

We are not long for this world, and i fear for 3 - 4 generations into the future, if that!

All because someone invented AI, someone developed it for their own ends, and the AI then decides it doesnt need us!

Sad but probable.

Many years ago predictive projections took ages to process, today its instant. Had fun on a project to emulate racing results, it did its job looked like the real deal due to stacking the odds, some taught it was capable of something it was never meant to do. Still miss those days.  Nice Video

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Unfocussed Mike said

ANDY00 said

FlashArt said

Self-populating data, predictive text, learning models, etc., are all complicated ways of describing intelligent software. When you ask me a question, I think through it, draw on my experiences and historical information, and come up with an answer. AI does the same thing.

No, it doesn't. There may be nobody behind the curtain but you are profoundly (I mean that precisely, not rudely) mischaracterising how GPT works.

It's difficult to get across how it can do what it does without the process you're describing, but it does. There's much less going on than that.

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Yes, it does. A Large Language Model (LLM) is trained on huge amounts of data and, as a new development, has access to search the web as well. So, it's not hallucinating an answer; it's providing an informed response based on the data it has learned or researched to give the correct response. That's intelligence, artificial but still intelligence :-)

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ANDY00 said

Unfocussed Mike said

ANDY00 said

FlashArt said

Self-populating data, predictive text, learning models, etc., are all complicated ways of describing intelligent software. When you ask me a question, I think through it, draw on my experiences and historical information, and come up with an answer. AI does the same thing.

No, it doesn't. There may be nobody behind the curtain but you are profoundly (I mean that precisely, not rudely) mischaracterising how GPT works.

It's difficult to get across how it can do what it does without the process you're describing, but it does. There's much less going on than that.

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Yes, it does. A Large Language Model (LLM) is trained on huge amounts of data and, as a new development, has access to search the web as well. So, it's not hallucinating an answer; it's providing an informed response based on the data it has learned or researched to give the correct response. That's intelligence, artificial but still intelligence :-)

 

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You are still mischaracterising how it comes up with answers. I can only recommend reading more on the technology of what a language model actually is. And what it is not.

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Unfocussed Mike said

ANDY00 said

Unfocussed Mike said

ANDY00 said

FlashArt said

Self-populating data, predictive text, learning models, etc., are all complicated ways of describing intelligent software. When you ask me a question, I think through it, draw on my experiences and historical information, and come up with an answer. AI does the same thing.

No, it doesn't. There may be nobody behind the curtain but you are profoundly (I mean that precisely, not rudely) mischaracterising how GPT works.

It's difficult to get across how it can do what it does without the process you're describing, but it does. There's much less going on than that.

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Yes, it does. A Large Language Model (LLM) is trained on huge amounts of data and, as a new development, has access to search the web as well. So, it's not hallucinating an answer; it's providing an informed response based on the data it has learned or researched to give the correct response. That's intelligence, artificial but still intelligence :-)

 

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You are still mischaracterising how it comes up with answers. I can only recommend reading more on the technology of what a language model actually is. And what it is not.

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So, you're suggesting it guesses the answer? If that's the case, it remarkably gets a crazy amount of answers right. I should have it guess lottery numbers for me, haha! But the bottom line is, it does what it does. All these intelligent systems perform their functions, and it's great to see and can only improve.

I grew up in the era of Star Wars, where watching walking, talking robots was a thing beyond our future. I never expected to see it, but here they are, and in many ways, they're better than they were in the movies. Yet, when presented with them, all everyone has are negative comments and outlooks. Humans are never happy, lol. I love seeing this stuff. If you don't, I genuinely am sorry for you. life has a lot of negatives i like to take a positive when one pops up :-)

Genuinely, if you hate AI conversations so much, why do you come onto everyone to add negativity to the thread? Do you work for OpenAI or some other AI institute? Are you part of some anti-Skynet club? I'm honestly curious. If I see a thread with a subject I don't like, generally, I don't go there because I will not have a positive point to add. And I get that everyone has a point of view, and I welcome it, but you and a few others seem to have a real hatred for the subject. So, I'm curious, if AI is dumb, stupid, or a joke, why not avoid the subject? :-) or is it because you are an expert ? if so why do i need to read up on it, surely you can tell me how its trained yourself ? :-) 

I'm no expert I've said this many times, maybe that's why I'm so impressed with it, but i am impressed with it but then all those years ago as i said i was impressed with a zx spectrum and that could fit in an app on a phone now :-)

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I wonder though.....

If someone who has 'reasons' gets hold of a few of these 'benign' robots, and gives them weapons, and programmes them to kill humans, and then to move elsewhere and do the same, and wherever possible 'heal' each other when they are 'injured', surely that is threatening the populous of this planet?

Do you not think this is possible?

Heck, the Chinese were in GCHQ last week. Someone somewhere probably thought that improbable.