Looking for feedback from models

Lots of great suggestions and options for me to cogitate, so will investigate these before committing to an iPhone

Will definitely mention my difficulties in precomms so the model is aware

THANK YOU EVERYONE (y)

Orson Carter I’d shoot you if you got your kit off….

I’ve heard your body was your Temple.
Just one of the Ancient Greek ones.

;)

Grant-WASP said

Lots of great suggestions and options for me to cogitate, so will investigate these before committing to an iPhone

Will definitely mention my difficulties in precomms so the model is aware

THANK YOU EVERYONE (y)

I'd also throw the Panasonic Lumix LX100 series into the mix if you want a full featured camera that is tiny.  It's essentially a Leica D-Lux type 109

Allesandro B said

Grant-WASP said

Lots of great suggestions and options for me to cogitate, so will investigate these before committing to an iPhone

Will definitely mention my difficulties in precomms so the model is aware

THANK YOU EVERYONE (y)

I'd also throw the Panasonic Lumix LX100 series into the mix if you want a full featured camera that is tiny.  It's essentially a Leica D-Lux type 109

I'd second that. In fact there are a lot of very good cameras in that part of the market that capture excellent images, whilst weighing just a few hundred grams. FWIW, I still have a Lumix DMC-LX1 - a very early predecessor to the DMC-LX100, I bought cheap in Hong Kong back in 2006 when it first came out. Rather lacking in low-light performance compared to today's offerings. But it has an excellent built-in Leica 6.3mm -25.2mm (f/2.8-f/4.9) zoom lens and still produces astonishingly good results.

ANDY00 yeah, I've seen that.

It's interesting as there's a few models who regularly pop up on the front page. I've never chased an FPI but I'm now tempted to hire one of the "big name" models and shoot a set on mobile, just to see what happens. Interestingly one of my most liked photos is of a model who's got an FPI today; and it's not even showing her face - but nearly every model I've spoken to since has asked "can I have a go at doing that?"

JME Studios said

ANDY00 yeah, I've seen that.

It's interesting as there's a few models who regularly pop up on the front page. I've never chased an FPI but I'm now tempted to hire one of the "big name" models and shoot a set on mobile, just to see what happens. Interestingly one of my most liked photos is of a model who's got an FPI today; and it's not even showing her face - but nearly every model I've spoken to since has asked "can I have a go at doing that?"

To be honest, I’ve openly admitted that my skillset isn’t quite suited to mobile photography—it’s a big new learning curve for me. However, technically speaking, when it comes to fashion, model photography, or even landscape shots, mobile phones should be able to achieve the same level of quality as an SLR in the format displayed on PP,IG or Facebook etc, with the main limitation being in enlargement or print options. But for platforms like this site, where only small thumbnails and low-resolution images are used, mobile photography can absolutely hold its own. The convenience and advancements in mobile cameras mean that, for digital platforms, the gap between mobile and SLRs is shrinking fast, And now they have drones that can not only reach great heights but can also follow a subject automatically at high speeds, snapping pictures constantly.

The photography scene is evolving. It’s becoming more mobile, smaller, and faster. It’s minute to minute, spontaneous, not planned. Your camera is with you 24/7, always ready. The days of spending long hours editing for a small percentage of great images are fading. Now, photography is about editing on the go, using the same device that captured the images and uploading them minutes later. Before you’ve even left the location, people can comment and give you instant feedback. It’s a brave new world.

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Aardvark🎯VonEssfolk said

Scott Bowman said

Rather than using a phone which has poor ergonomics, I would suggest a compact 1" sensor digital camera. Something like a Canon G7X mkIII, G5X mkII, Sony RX100VII or equivalent.

These will give better images thanks to the larger sensor and better optics when compared to a smartphone, and they can fit into a pocket. They are not cheap though.

+1

"They are not cheap though"

... Actually not really that 'expensive' either, if you compare with the cost of the very latest TOP OF THE RANGE Pixel, iPhone, Smasung or Sony (etc). I actually have to literally LOL when I look at these (laptop-esque) prices (and how utterly crap the 'screen button' ergonomics of smartphones STILL are!)

Keeping my Pixel 5 for as long as possible. Camera tech better than my previous Pixel 2 ... but not miles more. At least my Pixel 5 cost me around HALF (or less) of what a Pixel 9 Pro or Pro XL would. Crazy money.

Edited by Aardvark🎯VonEssfolk

It's a bit of a weird situation with compact cameras at the moment. Yes they are relatively cheap compared to a modern mirrorless cameras and decent lenses, or a high end smartphone, but they are expensive for what they are as many are older devices. Manufacturers aren't making many as the market collapsed years ago once smartphones took over, yet there is still high demand for them in the used market as people realised you could get superior results to a phone, while offering better handling, that you can also fit in your pocket.

Despite having a capable camera on my phone I don't really take pictures with it. This is down to a couple of factors, one being the ergonomics, or lack of, as I just find the experience awkward, I always feel like I am going to drop it. Anyone who has used a camera before the smartphone came along intrinsically knows how it works in the hand. The second is intent. When I have a camera, I have intent and purpose, I am going to make an image. I don't get that with a phone.

I see the smartphone as the replacement to a point and shoot or a disposable. Great if you just want an image with no fuss. If all you are going to do is look at them on a phone screen anyway or maybe print at 6x4 it will do. If you want to take it further than that you are probably better served with a dedicated camera, but that's just my opinion.

Scott Bowman said

Aardvark🎯VonEssfolk said

Scott Bowman said

Rather than using a phone which has poor ergonomics, I would suggest a compact 1" sensor digital camera. Something like a Canon G7X mkIII, G5X mkII, Sony RX100VII or equivalent.

These will give better images thanks to the larger sensor and better optics when compared to a smartphone, and they can fit into a pocket. They are not cheap though.

+1

"They are not cheap though"

... Actually not really that 'expensive' either, if you compare with the cost of the very latest TOP OF THE RANGE Pixel, iPhone, Smasung or Sony (etc). I actually have to literally LOL when I look at these (laptop-esque) prices (and how utterly crap the 'screen button' ergonomics of smartphones STILL are!)

Keeping my Pixel 5 for as long as possible. Camera tech better than my previous Pixel 2 ... but not miles more. At least my Pixel 5 cost me around HALF (or less) of what a Pixel 9 Pro or Pro XL would. Crazy money.

Edited by Aardvark🎯VonEssfolk

It's a bit of a weird situation with compact cameras at the moment. Yes they are relatively cheap compared to a modern mirrorless cameras and decent lenses, or a high end smartphone, but they are expensive for what they are as many are older devices. Manufacturers aren't making many as the market collapsed years ago once smartphones took over, yet there is still high demand for them in the used market as people realised you could get superior results to a phone, while offering better handling, that you can also fit in your pocket.

Despite having a capable camera on my phone I don't really take pictures with it. This is down to a couple of factors, one being the ergonomics, or lack of, as I just find the experience awkward, I always feel like I am going to drop it. Anyone who has used a camera before the smartphone came along intrinsically knows how it works in the hand. The second is intent. When I have a camera, I have intent and purpose, I am going to make an image. I don't get that with a phone.

I see the smartphone as the replacement to a point and shoot or a disposable. Great if you just want an image with no fuss. If all you are going to do is look at them on a phone screen anyway or maybe print at 6x4 it will do. If you want to take it further than that you are probably better served with a dedicated camera, but that's just my opinion.

Forgive me if I'm teaching my proverbial grandma here, but on most Android smartphones, you can use the 'volume up' button as a 'shutter release'. Whilst it doesn't fix all the ergonomics issues, it makes the device feel significantly more like a conventional camera, than trying to tap a software button on its screen.

waist.it said

Forgive me if I'm teaching my proverbial grandma here, but on most Android smartphones, you can use the 'volume up' button as a 'shutter release'. Whilst it doesn't fix all the ergonomics issues, it makes the device feel significantly more like a conventional camera, than trying to tap a software button on its screen

Yes, I am aware and it does help pressing with the shutter, but I still find holding the phone a bit awkward probably due to its flat profile.

Scott Bowman said

waist.it said

Forgive me if I'm teaching my proverbial grandma here, but on most Android smartphones, you can use the 'volume up' button as a 'shutter release'. Whilst it doesn't fix all the ergonomics issues, it makes the device feel significantly more like a conventional camera, than trying to tap a software button on its screen

Yes, I am aware and it does help pressing with the shutter, but I still find holding the phone a bit awkward probably due to its flat profile.

If it's mainly the physical grip that matters, and it will fit your phone, I really like the Ulanzi CapGrip. It's cheap as hell, super light plastic, DSLR-ish grip shape, bluetooth trigger. You can then work mostly-one-handed like with a DSLR. Sling one in your bag, no worries.

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Unfocussed Mike said

Scott Bowman said

waist.it said

Forgive me if I'm teaching my proverbial grandma here, but on most Android smartphones, you can use the 'volume up' button as a 'shutter release'. Whilst it doesn't fix all the ergonomics issues, it makes the device feel significantly more like a conventional camera, than trying to tap a software button on its screen

Yes, I am aware and it does help pressing with the shutter, but I still find holding the phone a bit awkward probably due to its flat profile.

If it's mainly the physical grip that matters, and it will fit your phone, I really like the Ulanzi CapGrip. It's cheap as hell, super light plastic, DSLR-ish grip shape, bluetooth trigger. You can then work mostly-one-handed like with a DSLR. Sling one in your bag, no worries.

Edited by Unfocussed Mike

Unfocussed Mike I still have a couple of those Joby jobbies c/w Bluetooth shutter release we discussed a few years back.

They are quite useful but they feel quite flimsy, especially when deployed on a heavy (360 gram) phone such as mine. I don't use them much these days. Instead, I fitted 'Peak Design compatible' bullets on my phone - and on almost all my various - devices and use the same detachable hand loupes that I use on my µ4/3 cameras. This takes away the fear of dropping them. Quite excellent actually...

These days I prefer machined aluminium Arca-compatible phone clamps. They are only a few quid and enable one to mount a smartphone securely on a tripod, or monopod. I even have an Arca mount c/w phone-clamp on my desk. I find this immensely useful...

My husband uses a tripod dolly if that helps, though you could add a casting for an assistant to carry your kit and help you in studio, though a few studios actually provide help in with their price.

Casting: “Model must bring strong chaperone to carry my kit”

;)