Hello all, I noticed a recent? trend in images showing models "waving" all kinds of guns and other sorts of weapons, does anyone have an idea where this comes from, and if there are any rules or regulations from PP's side in this matter, I would love to hear your opinion.
Kees
I believe https://purpleport.com/articles/1/image-upload-guidelines/ would classify weapons like guns, knives etc under NSFW.
As a photographer, you are allowed by law to purchase a RIF (realistic imitation firearm) or a deactivated gun for the purpose of reenactment, movie-making, or image creation, owning and using it comes with a set of rules for transporting and displaying.
A good alternative or source for this is various Airsoft sites, which sell imitation firearms under the UKARA rule system. As a reenactor or filmmaker, you would be eligible for realistic, non-luminous color replicas.
The ironic thing about this is the imitations often cost far more than the real things do, obviously not in this country but where they are sold legally :-)
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Turn on a tv most evenings & there will be actors waving guns around on around a quarter of the channels most evenings.
Why should there be any restrictions on models in still images?
Though depending where you are in the world there will be local laws regarding use of real or immitation firearms for artistic projects.
Noticing the OP is based in the Netherlands I was rather surprised in the course of working for Slingshot World magazine to find out catapults/slinghots are complelely illegal there, yet you can own a gun if a member of a shooting club or use it for hunting.
Plenty of legal gun owners in the UK. Both shotgun and rifles.
If you have an open ticket and permission to shoot on a piece of land you could legally photograph your model shooting your gun(s) as long as they are over 17.
Wander onto somewhere that you don't have permission and its armed trespass. Not something you want to get charged with ;)
I used to shoot and was a gun owner and also collected replicas/airsoft guns.I had a very large collection.
You would think the the name bullets I'd love to do a shoot (no pun intended) with a model holding a gun but nothing could be further than the truth! One of my pet peeves is when photographers do this! They will get a model posing with a sword or replica gun often with no context or theme often having the model in the nip and I think it just looks awful.....but each to their own I suppose.
(My other pet peeve is photographers getting models to pose with vintage film cameras and pretending to use them or having them hold them awkwardly)
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I’d always assumed it was a (imbalance of ) power thing. Definitely not something I would shoot.
Lenswonder said
What's your view on it since you brought it up?
Probably because I see already so much violence all day everywhere I don't like to see it gloryfied it here too..
ANDY00 said
As a photographer, you are allowed by law to purchase a RIF (realistic imitation firearm) or a deactivated gun for the purpose of reenactment, movie-making, or image creation, owning and using it comes with a set of rules for transporting and displaying.
A good alternative or source for this is various Airsoft sites, which sell imitation firearms under the UKARA rule system. As a reenactor or filmmaker, you would be eligible for realistic, non-luminous color replicas.
The ironic thing about this is the imitations often cost far more than the real things do, obviously not in this country but where they are sold legally :-)
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Sensual Art said
I believe https://purpleport.com/articles/1/image-upload-guidelines/ would classify weapons like guns, knives etc under NSFW.
Shouldn't that be classyfied as Adult?
JonC said
I’d always assumed it was a (imbalance of ) power thing. Definitely not something I would shoot.
I agree.. nudity never killed anyone..
bodyworkx said
Sensual Art said
I believe https://purpleport.com/articles/1/image-upload-guidelines/ would classify weapons like guns, knives etc under NSFW.
Shouldn't that be classyfied as Adult?
You'd have to raise that question directly with Admin, probably best done in a support ticket, as it would be a change of policy. If they don't perceive a problem as things stand, they're unlikely to change anything, but if there were a demonstrable problem with the existing policy then they probably would change accordingly. I don't know, I'm not Admin, but I base that on responses to previous requests of similar nature.
bodyworkx people holding what's usually quite obviously plastic guns is really not violence. There used to be a photographer here who was very good at gore and blood , never a gun in sight, I'm guessing you wouldn't have liked that.
I too have seen the odd gun shoot here , though I did question it myself, it was not enough to post a thread about. There are some images where people are pretending to put their hands on a models neck in provocative ways or put a leash on a models neck, posing with a plastic gun seems small compared to these other images.
Those images are actually more violent and degrading , a model holding a gun maybe pretending to be a action hero for some may be empowering or bit of fun compared to what I mention.
I guess you could argue if these images of guns need to be labelled nsfws so people can avoid them.
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All depends how it's done, from what I've seen produced 99% with hand guns in a studio have been tacky and crap, like a model in lingerie or topless pointing gun at camera. Don't mind to see well styled balanced image where it is an essential part of the image story. Actually used to enjoy a bit of Sunday clay shooting but not something I'd photograph.
bodyworkx said
ANDY00 said
As a photographer, you are allowed by law to purchase a RIF (realistic imitation firearm) or a deactivated gun for the purpose of reenactment, movie-making, or image creation, owning and using it comes with a set of rules for transporting and displaying.
A good alternative or source for this is various Airsoft sites, which sell imitation firearms under the UKARA rule system. As a reenactor or filmmaker, you would be eligible for realistic, non-luminous color replicas.
The ironic thing about this is the imitations often cost far more than the real things do, obviously not in this country but where they are sold legally :-)
Edited by ANDY00
Sensual Art said
I believe https://purpleport.com/articles/1/image-upload-guidelines/ would classify weapons like guns, knives etc under NSFW.
Shouldn't that be classyfied as Adult?
Guns are shown in cartoons and on TV before the watershed. Guns themselves aren't evil; it's the people who use them for evil that are the problem. I don't love guns, though I have a lot of experience with them. Still, I'd prefer a world without them. However, they are glamorized in books, TV shows, and films—basically everywhere—so it's no surprise that people find them interesting to photograph.
I've seen many people trying to recreate movie covers and superhero characters. I mean, how many times have you seen Tomb Raider recreated here? or the various halloween sets with knifes and blood which has its own culture.
But while you say you see guns all the time in the real world, the internet contains far more nudity than guns. Far more. and that can include images of people dressed as schoolgirls, of girls tied up etc etc far more worrying than guns imho
Don’t worry, most of them are plastic kids toys, or maybe de-activated weapons. Nobody is going to shoot you.