Models: art-nude models: The supply of art-nude models: retention, and recruitment of new ones

"Is there a form of words ideal for suggesting to an interesting stranger that they might like to take off their clothes and go in front of a camera?"

I think there's a bit more to modelling than that. But that's how a lot of muggles seem to regard it. :(

But let's try to be constructive... Even though I don't like the term 'art nude' (I prefer the old-fashioned term - figure work), it will be interesting to hear what the term means to various people. Personally, I think it's something that concentrates on shapes and lighting - sometimes with the use of props or in suitable settings or locations - and, importantly, is non-sexual. In a way, it's the photographic equivalent of life drawing. 

But that hasn't answered the question of how to attract new people to that style of modelling. Sorry - I've not been much help, have I?    

YES I am stupid had lots of practice  could there not be a Category created where only Art nude Figure work is shown and not put into general area of recently added images maybe a more subtle place to showcase Art nude Figure work 

I would hate to be constrained by definitions.

My interpretation of art nude is quite wide.

How to attract more models?

I am afraid that I have no idea.

Instagram and Facebook have gotten stricter over the past few years so even posting a picture with emojis or lines scribbled over nipples, is not enough and you risk having it taken down or even your account restricted for 30 days on Facebook or shadow-banned on instagram.

That’s then 30 days you can’t market yourself on a platform. Or if you’re shadow-banned on instagram it’s harder for people to see your content. So the only place it leaves you to really post nude work is here on purpleport and I’m just not sure that’s everyone’s first port of call these days for posting their work to be honest.

Furthermore with platforms such as OnlyFans, many models prefer to reserve nude work to that platform and self shoot, it’s just a matter of comfort really.

I think times have just changed, people have adapted.

I’m unconvinced it’s something photographers can control or even influence in many respects. It very much depends on the current motivation of the model.

It could be said the solution is offer higher rates. This doesn't work for me but I'm happy to have experienced shooting artnude in the past with great models and don't have to look for new models or spend on higher rates. Perhaps this is just a slow down and things will improve for the those interested in artnude. I think for some the idea of artnude may actually seem like hardwork and it's true when you think of a purely artnude model , not glamour. Not everyone can deliver that.

My interests have broadened into fashion and portrait and the majority of my recent shoots have been "suitable for work".

However, I have indeed noticed that there are fewer art nude models available these days. There are of course models available in that genre but they are mostly out of my range financially, geographically or both. Or I am afraid to say that not all inspire me.

Some have changed their levels before our shoot and some have either stopped modelling or stopped modelling nude. That is of course their prerogative and I firmly believe that every model must set her own levels and I will never complain.

That said I do wish for more choice.

ADWsPhotos said

I’m unconvinced it’s something photographers can control or even influence in many respects. It very much depends on the current motivation of the model.

Well, so far as retention goes.

But recruitment I had in mind people who have never modelled.

"Fish where the fishes are".

There might be more people who would be great art nude models among the population who have never thought of modelling, or gone from a thought to the action, than there have ever been here.

"Figure work ". Definitely a good slant on the definition and description and form of words. There is indeed much more, but what is the start, the substrate?

Thank you Pippa. Your work continues to be delightful. POSSE may become the Web/Internet strategy of choice - personal website first, then on social media. There is no obvious limit to enshitification of the social etc media, although the Fediverse, Mastodon etc, is designed to resist it better than most.

Art nude still has most of the social negatives of adult work, without the benefits (money, all the rough sex with strangers you can handle, etc.) Also, it is a particularly self-selecting aesthetic, you either fit with it or you don’t.

If you can only get eight hours work a week, how many will go for £30/hour over £100?

Very valuable contribution from Pippa. - thank you.

- possibly the “Art nude model” is as much a thing of the past as the “Fine Art BW print”.

If a model is in this as a way of earning a living, then there are better ways of doing it than shooting “Art nudes”.

MidgePhoto I had indeed concentrated on retention. I wonder if any photographer was active on the ‘recruitment’ front they might enjoy the view (possibly justifiably) that they were just keen to see models with no clothes on.

Funny old world, innit Saint?

It's many years since I've shot anything above lingerie, much prefer stylish fashion or beauty fashion type styles so lack of nude makes no difference to me. I can understand why models use OF fir higher levels, no travel, more control, more productive and regular revenue....a no brainer really.

I do it to produce big BW prints that people will occasionally pay decent money to put on their wall.

I’m certainly not in it for the “photographic experience” of having a pretty young woman frisking about naked, as was memorably suggested recently.

Unfortunately I don’t think PP is a great place to find people who want to make “art”.

Huw said

I do it to produce big BW prints that people will occasionally pay decent money to put on their wall.

I’m certainly not in it for the “photographic experience” of having a pretty young woman frisking about naked, as was memorably suggested recently.

Unfortunately I don’t think PP is a great place to find people who want to make “art”.

Sorry to say it but I think you've nailed it here, it's more just shooting naked models for the majority on here especially when you see what's produced....not a lot to do with art, so even more reason for models to favour OF for revenue.

We’re out here and not going anywhere if you search for us 😁 some of us just don’t make ourselves known so much!